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thanking for spending time with us. as mentioned you can find the entire full interview with robert f. kennedy now. you can watch it for free on msnbc.com/ari. or our youtube playist if you have any reason you want to watch it. if not, join me here tomorrow. the last word with lauren o'donnell is up next. >> they want to keep me off the campaign trail. it is one of the many lies donald trump tells me about his criminal hush money trial. it is a lie because there is always one day a week donald trump is free to campaign. that day is today. wednesday. but donald trump doesn't have any public campaign events scheduled for his day off from court. instead, he is spending the day at mar-a-lago. according to axios, quote, trump flew home to palm beach florida where he is expected to join supporters who bought at
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least 47 trump n ts at $99 each. according to a copy of the dinner invitation reviewed by axios. the company selling trump nfts isn't connected to his campaign. last year, trump reported making between $100,000 to $1 million in 2022 from nfts according to financial disclosures. and donald trump is hosting the dinner just one day after nikki haley who ended her presidential campaign two months ago managed to win nearly 22% of indiana republican votes. nikki haley has won support from one in five republican primary voters. donald trump didn't campaign for those votes.
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an investment from microsoft to build a new artificial intelligence data center at the site of donald trump's failed ten billion dollar fox con project. >> my predecessor had the promise of reclaiming our country's proud manufacturing legacy. but we add infrastructure every day, every week for four years, didn't build a thing. they promised a $10 billion investment by fox con to build new manufacturing complex. create 13,000 new jobs. in fact, it came here with your senator ron johnson holding a golden shovel. promising to build the eighth wonder of the world. what happened? they dug a hole with the golden shovels. then think fell into it.
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they didn't shovel other dirt. they did shovel some dirt. 100 tons were bulldozed. they wasted hundreds of millions of dollars of your state and local tax dollars to promise a project that never happened. fox con turned out to be just that. a con. go figure. >> while president biden was celebrating major legislative achievements and highlighting the failures of donald trump, vice president kamala harris is pushing forward on her reproductive freedom tour with an assist from her husband doug emhoff. the second gentleman was in atlanta yesterday pushing for more men to get involved in the fight for reproductive rights. >> why should other men, i hope care as much as i do? this is not just an issue for women. this is an issue for families. we talk about this. in context of gee, my son just got married. he is thinking about starting a family. is this going to impact where they live and how they think
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about starting a family? you know, we have one dad who has a daughter in one of these states. in college. thinking about gee, do i move, do i leave that state where i love that college because of a restrictive ban? donald trump caused this. >> kamala harris was in pennsylvania laying the blame squarely on donald trump for the state of abortion access in this country. >> if you want to know who is to blame where we are now, a finger can be pointed directly at the former president. the former president made it very clear and then did what he intended to do. he would pick three members of the united states supreme court. with the intention that they would undo the protections of roe and they did exactly as he
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intended. and we saw the laws being passed. and he said he is proud. proud that doctors and nurse cans be jailed? proud that our daughters have fewer rights than ourselves and our mothers? proud that people are suffering? >> vice president harris was joined by emmy award winning actress and singer cheryl lee ralph who spoke about her own personal experience. >> when my son was born, it almost didn't happen. i had lost my am neonic fluid and most of us know in here that's the fluid that surround it is baby in the womb. and i was about ready to have what they called a dry birth. which is complicated. i was in a moment where i was
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so close to birth, and death at the same time. a viable delivery. i'm listening to this. as i'm trying to deliver my child. if that doctor were to deliver and excavate the child from my womb, they would have gone to prison. these are the kind of things we have got to think about. that happened to me. but that was 30 years ago. i had more rights 30 years ago. and why are we having to talk to so many women to let them know how important they are in this reelection on this subject and how important it is to vote
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for your own best interest? >> i often paraphrase i think such a lovely, important saying from coretta scott king. and she famously said the fight for civil rights and you can insert there the fight for equality and freedom must be fought and won with each generation. it is the nature of these fights that whatever we gain will not be permanent. it's the nature of it. therefore, second point, we must be vigilant, and not be overwhelmed when these moments happen because the nature of it. the very nature of it is we must be vigilant to hold onto
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these rights. >> joining us now, michael tyler. communications director for the biden harris reelection campaign. michael, great to see you again. thank you for coming to the last word. we are really seeing a split screen after donald trump spent yesterday in a criminal courtroom listening to testimony against him from porn star stormy daniels. how is the biden harris campaign seizing on this moment? >> it is certainly a split screen as it relates to donald trump no matter where he is. whether he is in a manhattan courtroom or down in mar-a-lago or the few times where he does step out of mar-a-lago. he is talking about grievance in service of himself. the role he played in overturning roe v. wade. thinking the state bans across the country are working out brilliantly. he is talking about a blood bath if he doesn't win. he is talking about ruling as a
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dictator on day one. that is the campaign he is running. i think what you see today out of the president joe biden is someone talking about the promises he made and the promises that he has kept fighting on behalf of working people across the country. in wisconsin, $3.3 billion in wisconsin. the same place that donald trump came to when he was president with a golden shovel in his hand promising the eighth wonder of the world and 13,000 jobs. the people of washington saw how that played out. places like warren, michigan and lancertown, ohio saw how that played out. when donald trump said you are not going to lose any auto jobs here. here in joe biden's america, we are bringing american manufacturing back to measures as we created 15 million jobs.
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>> the president was seen in wisconsin talking about the new plant that is going on the site of the old plant. that donald trump had promised and failed to follow through on. but how are you all campaigning differently in wisconsin to meet voters where they are, not just in wisconsin, but in key states? >> yeah, no, it's a good question. i think today is a good example of that. we just launched a new push we are doing across the country. number one, we are continuing our aggressive paid advertising campaign. $14million in the month of may alone. but we are layering that with the work that we are doing on the ground. we are deepening our organizing presence. the president after he gave the speech announcing the microsoft project, went to a community center. we are doing work in the black community. making sure that we are not only doing door knocking, phone
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calls, working with small businesses. making sure that they can serve a staging location for a lot of our efforts on the ground. we are building up our physical infrastructure. we have over 150 field offices and cross all the battleground states. by the end of this month, we'll have 200 field offices so it is taking the full surround sound efforts of everything we have to do on the air waves and the ground across the digital platforms and i think all of that stands in stark contrast to the lack of infrastructure you see out of the trump campaign. their physical infrastructure is nonexistent in states like wisconsin. they are shuttering minority outreach centers so they may pay a lot of lip service. but the proof is in the pudding as what they care about. it stands in stark contrast to the campaign we are running. the work we are doing to make sure the entirety of the biden harris coalition understands the stakes of this election and turns up in november. >> let's keep talking about black voters because a lot has been made about the movement of
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some black voters to the right. there are voters upset about persistently high prices on food. does the president have a problem with that key voting block? what does it take to get the support back up to 2020 levels? >> i think we will need to do what we are doing. running a campaign. we will communicate what the president's record has been for black america. frankly, no president in modern history has done more for black america than joe biden. you look at the facts. we have record low unemployment. black wealth up by 60%. you have historic investments to the tune of $7 billion in hbcus , the fastest rate of black small business growth. the list goes on and on. so we will talk about what president biden's record has been for black america. and we will talk about our opponent in donald trump who hasn't been in the limelight as of late. but we remember his record for black america when he was in power. the things that went up for
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black folks by the end of this term were the unemployment rate and the uninsured rate. so we will talk about what the records are. we will talk about what the vision for the future is and who our opponent is. we are confident if we continue to communicate that message using the tools we have in our disposal as is a campaign, we will be successful and all of the voters will decide the pathway to 270. >> a lot of people are getting their information online. and a lot f o it is bad. how are you trying to reach those voters? >> we have to use all the tools at our disposal. our paid media campaign. yes it is on tv and on the air waves but it is equally on digital platforms. we are cruise digital influencers making sure we are communicating with credible messengers in different
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communities we understand. that you can't just get on tv and make your pitch. and again, layering it with the brick and mortar i talked about. it is why the infrastructure we have in the states at this early stage does in fact matter. you cannot show up to a city. to a community. in september and october. and ask for somebody's vote. you have to have a sustained long term relationship which is why our efforts started as far back as august of last year with organizing pilots. that is why we are applying the lessons to those we had in cities like milwaukee and phoenix and applying those to all eight battleground states now. that is what you are seeing in the 150 field offices. and the small business outreach. and, we will scale up those efforts as we hit the summer months which will be crucial to building the grass roots army that will take on donald trump in the fall. >> all right michael. let's talk about some voters who you are asking these folks their votes. and those are the nikki haley
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voters. she hasn't campaigned in two months. she got 22% of the vote in indiana. how are you appealing to those voters? you think you can peel some of those off? >> number one, it speak to the relative weakness of donald trump as he enters the general election. this is a man who still not demonstrated an ability to expand his appeal beyond the maga base. when he steps out and campaign, he is running on a record that is more extreme. he is running on national abortion bans. revenge and rotary louis. returning to the failed economic record of giving tax handouts to the super rich. all things unpopular with the american people. he is telling nikki haley's voters he does not want or need them. this campaign says to people who voted for nikki haley, people who understand the threat that donald trump poses
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to our democracy. that there is a home for you in joe biden's campaign. the reason we won in 2020 or the reason we won in 2022 and part of the reason we will win in 2024, we have a big tent of diverse americans who understand the stakes of this election. people will understand that joe biden is fighting for them fighting to bring this country together to get things done. which stand ins contrast to donald trump who is fighting for himself. >> in light of the decision to halt the weapons israel might use in an assault on rafah. how aren'ted are you on the impact of the war to voters who are really concerned about their leadership in this ongoing crisis? >> yeah. i think the president has approached this from the very beginning not as a politician, but as a commander-in-chief. you are seeing that played up
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today. he had the judgment to manage complex global situations. like the one that is playing out in the middle east. so we will make sure the american people know that and understand it and the american people will also understand that is opposed to how donald trump would approach this. we know he does not have the temperament to be commander-in- chief. and the only north store is his personal self-interest. the american people will understand that when they go the ballot box in november. >> michael tyler. communications director for the biden harris campaign. thank you very much. >> thank you. when we come back, new developments in defendant donald trump's cases in georgia and florida. we'll talk to glen and bradley next for what these delays mean
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donald trump complains almost every day that he sits in a manhattan courtroom facing criminal charges. that he should be out on the campaign trail. so, you would think that today, when he is not in court, that he would actually be out campaigning. but he's not. he is at his florida club hosting a dinner for people who bought his nft cards. demonstrating once again that donald trump cares more about the grift than he does about the voters. but while in the middle of his first criminal trial in new york, donald trump got a potential reprieve from his criminal trial in georgia. for his efforts to steal the 2020 election in that state.
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an appeals court in georgia agreed to hear donald trump's challenge to the judge's ruling not to disqualify district attorney willis from prosecuting the case. it is unclear how long the busy appeals court will take to decide the issue but it could stretch into 2025. the delay in the georgia trial comes one day after donald trump's favorite judge aileen cannon gave him an indefinite delay in the case accusing him of illegally possessing classified document ins violation of the espionage act. in an order yesterday, judge cannon said there were too many outstanding pretrial issues to move forward with the trial originally scheduled may 20th. adding, quote, finalization of a trial date at this juncture before resolution of the pretrial and sepa issues remaining and fourth coming
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would be imprudent and inconsistent with the court's duty to fairly consider the various pending motions before the court. critical issues and additional pretrial and trial preparations. necessary to present this case to a jury. the delays raise the possibility that the hush money criminal trial might be the only one of trump's four criminal trials to be decided by a jury before the november election. but it is important to remember that these delays only matter if donald trump wins in november. each of these cases delayed now or not will go to trial. joining us now, glen kirschner. and bradley moss who represents people in the intelligence community. gentlemen, thank you both for
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being here. glen, judge mcafee left the door open for this possibility. but are you surprised that georgia appeals court agreed to hear this given his ruling? >> i'm really not, jonathan. this is a unique and perhaps unprecedented case. and a somewhat unconventional issue that got litigated. it really doesn't seem to the detriment of the defendants but it doesn't surprise me. that the court of appeals. is good news and the silver lining lurking behind the big dark orange cloud, the good news is judge mcafee made clear when he granted their motion to have this issue appealed. he said listen, this is not going to slow me down.
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ly continue to litigate motions. resolvish issues and we are going to move in the direction of a trial. and at least thus far, with today's order from the georgia court of appeals they said nothing about staying the trial court proceeding. so at least they can continue to make u progress in the direction of a trial. >> do you think they will grant a stay? >> i think donald trump's team will request a stay. i'm hopeful that they won't grant a stay. because really what is at issue should fani willis be in charge and supervising this rico prosecution or should it be somebody else? be interested to hear bradley's take on that. i don't think they need to grant the stay. this is unlike the prosecution in dc where the supreme court has taken up the absolute immunity claim. if that is a winning claim, then there shouldn't be a trial. but of course it shouldn't be a winning claim. >> bradley, your name has been invoked in the georgia case.
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i would love to get you to answer glen before i ask you about florida. >> yeah. i'm also inclined to think that they won't grant a stay if for no other reason, this will get resolved. whatever the appellate court rules, this will get resolved before that case is ready for trial. because even if judge mcafee does start ruling on these various pretrial motions, he has gone through several of them. the immunity issue is also there. we have to see what the supreme court will rule on that. it is what many of us suspected after hearing. whether or not willis and her team could be there at trial. i don't see any reason for a stay at this point. >> you heard me basically run out of breath reading judge
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cannon's rationale for this indefinite stay on everything. especially this. court's duty to fully and fairly the motions before the court. isn't she part of the problem? your thoughts? on florida? >> yeah. there are so many pending pretrial motions because she is moving at a snail's pace. some of these things she only just recently issued orders on. some of the pretrial motions she denied of course. she could have easily ruled on two to three months ago. she took forever just to get through some of the initial steps in this cipa process. if you remove the idea this is donald trump from it, you will see a young judge cautious, comprehensive. in terms of how she is approaching this. but given the political implications here, there is an obvious sort of stench
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surrounding this issue. dragging it out because of some underlying bias or because that is just how much she is not really ready for this case? >> so what does jack smith do now? >> no. she hasn't done anything in my view that would justify. even if you want today go to the 11th circuit. trying to do something for the 11th circuit. everything she has done so far is almost entirely within her discretion as the trial judge. to issue rulings. she has ruled against donald trump on almost all the substantiative issues. she reversed one of her own rulings. after jack smith brought up stuff like redactions. how slowly she has moved through this process. this case could have made it to
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trial this month. it has not because of judge cannon's pace. >> glen, one more question to you. we are still waiting on the supreme court to decide trump's immunity claim. is there any hope the dc election interference case can go to trial before the election? >> you know, i think the prospects are slim to none and slim is fading fast. i hate to say that. it is still possible if the supreme court rules that donald trump is not king, no president is king, he is subject to prosecution for the crimes he commits against the american people while in office. before the end of june, they returned the case to judge chutkin. it could be put back on the trial calendar for september 1st. and get it tried and revolved prior to the november election. i fear they may return it for
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more evidence hearings that will be unnecessary and problematic on the timing front. but all hope is not lost. it is just that it looks less likely by the day. >> all right. glen and bradley, thank you both very much for coming to the last word. coming up, donald trump's immigration plan is demonizing immigrants and telling republicans to kill the bipartisan border bill. and senator ted cruz listened. texas senate candidate collin alred has a better plan. that's next. lan. that's next. when you smell the amazing scent of gain flings... time stops. (♪♪) and you realize you're in love... steve? with a laundry detergent. (♪♪) gain flings. seriously good scent.
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we have an update to a story we followed on the last word. the sixth and final victim was recovered yesterday from the site of the francis scott key bridge collapse in baltimore, maryland. the new york times reports the victim, jose mynor lopez, 37, was a member of a work crew that had been filling potholes on the bridge when it was struck. he was married with two young children. a boy, and girl. all of the men who died were immigrants from el salvador, guatemala, honduras, and mexico. the tragedy is a reminder of the enormous contributions that immigrants make to this country. facing risks risks on jobs many people overlook. former president trump and maga
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republicans stoke anti- immigrant fears across the country. in last month's time magazine interview, trump stated he would use the national guard to deport migrants if needed. and he plans to restore a muslim ban on day one should he be reelected. republicans in congress are to blame as well for the lack of immigration reform after killing a bipartisan border bill at trump's urging. trump wants to demonize immigrants for his own crass political purposes which is why he tanked the bipartisan border bill. but the reality is that immigration is a key part of the american economy and the american experience. and we need solutions, not poison the blood division. our next guest, texas senate candidate congressman collin allred of texas is calling on president biden to extend work permits to the undocumented spouses and children of u.s.
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citizens. woody hunt and congressman allred right allowing someone who has worked and paid taxes here for decades. someone who is raising a family here. to legally work, earn a living, and help our economy is a boon for their family and for employers. but across the country, at least 5.5 million u.s. citizens under the age of 18 and 5.8 million adult u.s. citizens live with an undocumented spouse, parent, or other loved one. these are already american families. they just need the federal government to let them live like families. it reflects who we are as americans. joining us now, democratic congressman collin alread. he is running for the united states senate seat. currently occupied by ted cruz. great to see you. thank you for being here.
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how would expanding work permits impact the state of texas? >> we are a nation of immigrants and laws. we need to make our laws work better. and one, i think simple way to do that is for us to expand work permits which is a simple bipartisan solution. a win win for texas. it would help keep families together. also bring critical more workers into our economy. and i'm always looking for creative ways to try and work across the aisle where we can. to address our immigration system. i would like us to address what is happening at the border with the sledge isolation you were discussing. we have not had the leadership in place to actually help us do that. when i'm the senate, we'll have a leader in place who understands. that we have to make some of these changes. let's do it consistent with our values. make sure as americans, as sex anns, we both have the secured border and immigration system that works for economy. let's do it consistent with who we are.
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>> as i mentioned in the intro, lots of folks know if they watch this show, donald trump is essentially the reason that the bipartisan border deal fell through. republicans have even admitting that it was their own party's fault. so do you see another chance to get something done on this issue? >> i really hope so. because we need to. listen, that deal was addressing one of the issues we really have at the southern border. this asylum process is broken. we are seeing folks coming in. about 90% of the people seeking asylum will be rejected but it will take seven years for that rejection to occur. what this was an attempt to do was to speed up and to deal with that to provide billions of dollars of resources, more immigration judges. more personnel to help us address what we are seeing at the southern border. and when i talk to our border patrol agents, it was something they supported. and their union came out and in support of. it would help them do their
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job. but folks like ted cruz don't want to actually solve the problem. they want to have something to run on in november. that is what we can't have more of. >> is senator cruz paying any penalty for voters on this? >> i talk to folks all the time who ask me why can't y'all get manager done? it is on all of us to explain there are folks trying to get things done. we have a bipartisan agreement. where we know what comprehensive reform would look like. in my op ed, i'm working with a republican businessman here in texas to try to find a way forward. there are folks trying to get things done and folks like ted cruz standing in the way. in our democracy, elections is how we solve that, if someone won't help you solve a crisis which we had at the southern border. elect someone who will. and so that is what we have to talk about. make sure that texans and americans understand. that our immigration system is broken but it is broken because
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there are folks who won't provide the leadership to help us address it. >> let me get you on one more issue. you have been a fierce advocate for reproductive rights. texas voter amanda who spoke out after being denied abortion care in texas introduced the vice president at an event in pennsylvania. are these the post roe horror stories? are they changing minds in texas? >> absolutely. she is so brave. telling stories like this are so incredibly painful. my wife and i have had two baby boys in dallas the last five years. i hope everyone out there is a parent. knows what they would feel like if they had to tell the story of a much wanted pregnancy but they were not able to have the child they were hoping for. and to talk about the pain and the suffering that has been caused by the policies in
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texas. these are real stories and they are tragic stories and we have to make sure there are no more of them and we can do that by codifying roe v. wade. to me it is about freedom. and restoring freedom to texas women. to women like amanda, to kate cox. so many stories we haven't heard that are coming out every single day. >> going to have to leave it there. thank you very much for coming back to the last word. coming up, small acts of courage matter. sometimes, they change the world. my friend and colleague ali velshi explains that in his new memory small acts of courage. and ali velshi joins us next. a being me. keep being you... and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there
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and his new book, "small act of courage," my colleague writes about his family's extraordinary journey that eventually brought him to life in the united states. here is a small portion of that story as red by the author. >> from the time they fled south africa for kenya in 1961 then left can you once again for toronto nine years later, my parents' existence that halfway between that of immigrants and that of refugees. technically speaking, they were immigrants. they were never forced out of anywhere. they always left willingly and were always free to return. on both occasions, my parents'
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voluntary departures were made with a deep sense of foreboding. like the who looked around germany in 1933 and thought, this is not going to end well, my parents packed her bags with the belief that it was better to leave as an immigrant while they still could, then risk being forced out as a refugee later. >> allen dedicates the book quote to the remarkable women who have shaped my life. as you read this remarkable book, the indelible impact these women have had on the author and his family shines through. joining us now is the author himself, ali velshi, his new memoir, "small acts of courage," a legacy of
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endurance and fight for democracy, including the audiobook read by ali velshi is available now. i come all the way to new york to talk to you, and you go to washington. >> i know. although the dirty secret is that you and i actually did cross paths once in l.a. this weekend. it was great to talk to you. this is the second time i get to talk to you about this book and i am very excited. >> that interview on face-to- face will air this weekend but let's talk about the dedication at the beginning of your book and why it was so important for you to begin your book with those words. >> for two reasons. one is that it is true. the women in my family have been remarkably influential. the second part is as i researched this book and went to the archives to look at these things, it has dawned on me that boy, women get written out of history a lot, especially in a society and in south africa under apartheid. i really wanted to draw attention to the fact that in the struggle to overcome apartheid, the women in my family did a remarkable job of keeping their families
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together, raising them, in many cases, sustaining them while also facing remarkable injustices and it occurred to me that is probably the case for a lot of people in the world so i wanted to give special recognition to the women who have created who i am today and propel me forward. >> all right, we are going to play another passage from your audiobook. listen. >> my parents had a dedication to this cause of building a civil society. they had a passion for it, and both of them have seemingly endless reserves of patients combined with a knack for paying tremendous attention to detail. there are certain kinds of people, you put them on a committee and within six months they are running the thing. that was both of my parents. it is a sensibility that they have. things have to get done and things have to get done right. they were not in it for social reasons, and they weren't in it for recognition. they were in it because they believed in it and because they
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thrived in the minutia of it. they were equipped for the grind of it. whether it was politics or social issues, they were involved all the time, nonstop. as soon as my sister was old enough, she would enter that world, as well. >> ali, talk more about your family and this desire to serve. >> when i grew up in south africa, my grandfather was the youngest student at mahatma gandhi's ashram in south africa and they grow up with his sense of social justice and wanting to fight apartheid but they couldn't. i sister and parents were both born in a place where they could not vote because of the color of their skin and they were so desperate to be involved in politics and civil society as full participants that once they got to canada, they threw themselves into civil society than that ultimately politics and what it led to was my father running for office in 1981 in a way no one else had before him as a south asian, as a muslim, and
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he lost that election and it was a notable moment for me because i did not realize people run in elections deliberately, knowing they are going to lose, just to be part of the dialogue. ultimately, my father ran and won and broke some glass ceilings but it was a sense of fighting to make sure that everybody has equality in society and if everybody does not enjoy it, then none of us do and that is an ethos i was not even sure i was absorbing all these years and it turns out that it has filtered down to me from my great- grandparents to my grandparents, my father, my mother, my sister and over to me that injustice is around us and it is our job to find it. >> that gets to the subtitle of your book, the fight for democracy. your book is as much about the journey of your family in the journey that they have taken across generations as it is the fight for democracy. i was going to ask you to explain that for us but you kind of just did. >> yes. it is an inclusive democracy. my parents grew up in apartheid
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south africa, i don't know what it was five or 6% of the population had a right to vote. democracy was great for them. if you are white. everybody else didn't hurt that is how we have to look at things now. while there are those among us that do not enjoy the same rights we have, the same access to voting, to marrying who you want, the same access to making reproductive decisions then none of us have it and i think the vice president made that point in atlanta. he said men have got to look at reproductive rights and say, this is our problem, too and that is the ethos with which i grew up and that is that everybody needs to enjoy the same rights. it can't be democracy for some of us. it's got to be democracy for all of us. that is a battle i grew up understanding was crucial and weirdly, i did not expect this, 54 years after my parents arrived in north america, that we would still actually be fighting it, that we would be in that arena as we are today. >> again, the new book, which
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would make a wonderful mother's day gift, by the way, is "small acts of courage." as we mentioned, ali will join me again on the saturday show at 6:00 p.m. eastern to continue this discussion. ali velshi, congratulations again. thank you. >> we will be right back . and electricity... are forever in bloom. welcome to beyond. the mercedes-maybach eqs suv. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis held me back... now with skyrizi, i'm all in with clearer skin. ♪ things are getting clearer...♪ ( ♪♪ ) ♪ i feel free... ♪
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