it says will force tech companies to make their platforms safer. chaos at airports across the country as a failure of e—gates at passport control causes long queues. # i guess i always overestimate you.# and ireland breaks it's eurovision "curse". it's back in the grand final thanks to a self—styled "gremlin goblin witch." in sport... a game away from becoming european champions. how jadon sancho�*s move from manchester to germany pays off as borussia dortmund spring a surprise to reach the champions league final, ending mbappe and paris saint—germain�*s hopes of lifting the title. d°99y doggy out their full sun but it should brighten up. in scotland, when should arrive later. —— foggy

out there for some. it's wednesday, the 8th of may. our main story. the parents of 11 children, who died after what they say were the failings of social media, have called on rishi sunak and keir starmer to do more to protect young people online. in an open letter, they say they're disappointed by the lack of ambition shown by the regulator, ofcom, which has today set out its plans to force tech companies to make their platforms safer. our correspondent angus crawford reports. i want to know what they've got to say, and i want them to meet people with lived experience. it's really important to try and understand what ofcom are doing because from the outside they seem to be doing so little, which is ridiculous and frustrating. brianna and molly, their short lives spurring their parents on to try and make the online world

a safer place for all children. we showed them posts and pictures, easy to find on social media of self—harm, suicide and eating disorders. had you, um... had you seen content like that? i know that brianna was accessing content like that, and it makes me feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent her from looking at it. it's so hard. and it's notjust that this content is there, that it's the platforms are promoting this content, their algorithms are suggesting to young people that they see ever more of it. so people like brianna, people like molly and too many more. what we're doing is ensuring that we crack down on... years in the making, much delayed, the online safety act finally passed last year and promised to fix all this. the online safety bill will require platforms to remove and limit

the spread of illegal content. now, they bring those questions to ofcom, the regulator, to find out what's going on. astra and ian, thank you so much for coming in. ofcom does have new powers under the act but it can't start enforcing them yet. today, it's launching a consultation on how best to protect children. but for ian and esther, delays cost lives. they show ofcom's chief executive the same self—harm suicide content we found online. that's what you've got to remove. yeah. so it isn't easily available. though, exactly. i mean, this has become normalised. this sort of material has become normalised, notjust for adults, but for children. and honestly, i think we're going to look back on this, i hope we are anyway in five and ten years' time and just go, "how on earth did we let this happen?" nothing seems to have changed. this is... ..frustrating for, i think, parents like us,

but frustrating for all parents. well, i agree. there is so much that needs to change here. and all i can say is that at ofcom, we are moving forward really, really fast to get these new laws properly set out in detail. and within a year they will be there, we will be able to enforce against them. and what we're saying to companies is, everybody has waited too long for change. i'd like to know what the reaction of the social media companies have been. these companies are on the west coast of america mostly, and they don't really hear and understand quite the impact that they're having on british families and on british kids. we're proposing changes that will require age checks, that will require those recommender algorithms to change. pornography, suicide and self—harm material must not be served to under—18s and so the algorithms are going to have to change to make that happen.

i think when you've been through something like what what we've been through, it could either break you or it can give you an extra level of mental resilience, i suppose. and i think that we've both got that and we've both got that drive. we'll be on ofcom's back every step of the way because, at the end of the day, there shouldn't be another molly and there shouldn't be another brianna. mm—hm. coming up: we will be talking to ian, estherand coming up: we will be talking to ian, esther and the parents of nine other children whose deaths have been linked to social media. at his throughout the morning. now more of today's news. passengers entering uk airports faced long delays last night because of a technical problem with automated passport gates. queues began forming when the machines, which rely on facial recognition, stopped working. the home office has confirmed the "nationwide issue" is now resolved. our reporter nicky schiller has more.

the scene that greeted passengers arriving at stansted airport last night. queues, very long queues. they were due to the failure of passport control e—gates, which went down just before 8 o'clock. as more flights landed, the queues got longer. delays were reported across the country, including at gatwick, edinburgh, birmingham, bristol, newcastle and manchester. unfortunately, there is a system outage and we do not have a timeframe given. because of that outage, border officials had to rush to manually process passport holders. here at heathrow, all corners of the arrival areas were packed with passengers. some describe being kept on planes on the runway before being allowed to enter the terminal buildings. others saying they spent longer in the terminal than in the air. many told me they had to wait for over two hours to get through, using one word to describe it, chaos. a very, very long queue.

the longest queue maybe i've ever seen. two hours. more than two hours waiting. but they brought us water. so what went wrong with the e—gates? the home office, which oversees border force, didn't give details about the nature of the technical fault, but said that a large scale contingency response was activated within six minutes of the gates going down, and that at no point was border security compromised and there was no indication of malicious cyber activity. officials said the e—gates came back online shortly after midnight and apologise to travellers caught up in the disruption. some, like here in stansted, took to sleeping on the floor, all reallyjust wanting to get to their final destination, whether that be home or hotel. nicky schiller, bbc news, heathrow airport. nicky schiller is at heathrow airport for us. go to let's nicky down the camera and ask whether things had cleared,

the queues had cleared. irate and ask whether things had cleared, the queues had cleared.— and ask whether things had cleared, the queues had cleared. we have got ou. how the queues had cleared. we have got yom how about— the queues had cleared. we have got you. how about people _ the queues had cleared. we have got you. how about people getting - the queues had cleared. we have got you. how about people getting their| you. how about people getting their flights? are they ok? the you. how about people getting their flights? are they 0k?— flights? are they 0k? the early mornin: flights? are they 0k? the early morning flights _ flights? are they 0k? the early morning flights are _ flights? are they 0k? the early morning flights are arriving - flights? are they 0k? the early morning flights are arriving at l morning flights are arriving at heathrow from places like new york, johannesburg, melbourne, cape town and sydney. officials are telling me the e—gates are up and running and they are not expecting any problems this morning. nationwide, the home office say the system resurfaced at around midnight. we do not know what caused the outage. the home office saying that at no point was border security compromised. they also were thanking the travellers who got delayed. i was here around midnight. the people i was talking to were saying there was a couple of hours delay it took them to get through. i

have a feeling quite a few of those i spoke to last night will be waking up i spoke to last night will be waking up in a hotel when they didn't expect to be an all indeed they had a rather expensive taxi journey to get them home in the early hours of the morning. glad it is a bit better this morning. thank you. the us has confirmed it paused a bombs shipment for israel over concerns it was going ahead with a major ground operation in rafah in southern gaza. a senior official said israel has not "fully addressed" us concerns over humanitarian needs of civilians in rafah. meanwhile, aid agencies say the seizure of two major crossings there has made delivery of urgent supplies "all but impossible." stormy daniels, the adult film star at the centre of donald trump's criminal trial in new york, has been giving a detailed account of their alleged sexual encounter in 2006. mr trump's lawyer argued that her testimony was

irrelevant, but the judge rejected a request to declare a mis—trial. our north america editor, sarah smith, reports. each day, donald trump waves to the cameras before heading to court. but this was no ordinary day in this extraordinary trial. mr trump, is this true? in court, he had to watch a woman, who claims she had sex with him, openly testify about it. stormy daniels was paid $130,000 by mr trump to stop her going public with claims of a sexual encounter shortly before the 2016 presidential election. just outside the courtroom, he insisted he shouldn't be on trial at all. and the trial is a very unfair trial. it's a very, very unfair trial. the good news is they have nothing. thank you. the court was shown this photograph of mr trump with stormy daniels, as she described first meeting him at a golf tournament in 2006 — the day she says they later had sex. it was at this golf course, she says, that donald trump sent his bodyguard to invite her to dinner. when she got to his hotel suite, she laughed at him for wearing black

silk pyjamas, while he dangled the possibility of her appearing on his tv show, the apprentice. when she asked about his wife, melania, he told her they slept in separate rooms. as ms daniels described having sex on the bed with mr trump without using any protection, she was frequently interrupted by objections from his lawyers. her testimony was so prejudicial, they argued, thejudge should declare a mistrial. he agreed there were some things that would probably have been better left unsaid, but the case goes on. miss daniels was asked if she hates donald trump when his lawyers cross—examined her. "yes," she said, as it all got very heated. he had to listen to her admit she had publicly called him an orange turd and that she'd like to see him and she wants him held accountable. before his lawyer directly accused stormy daniels of trying to extort the former president through the hush money deal, mr trump posted on social media...

he then quickly deleted it. he's already been warned by thejudge he could be jailed if he continues to post about witnesses in this trial. sarah smith, bbc news, new york. john swinney will be officially sworn in as scotland's first minister this morning, after he was nominated by parliament. the snp leader succeeds humza yousaf, who resigned from office yesterday. mr swinney, who will become scotland's seventh first minister, is expected to form his government and confirm cabinet posts in parliament tomorrow. the world publications had broken temperature records every single day last year. scientists say it is fuelled by climate change. figures from the eu climate service

show that april 2024 was the warmest april on record. at least 95 people have died during flooding in brazil, with dozens missing. torrential rain in the rio grande do sul state has left residents without access to clean water for days. the area's governor is warning the situation looks set to get worse as the weather deteriorates in the coming days. prince harry will celebrate the ten—year anniversary of his invictus games with a thanksgiving service at st paul's cathedral later. the duke of sussex has travelled to the uk to commemorate the milestone of the games for injured veterans, but it's been revealed he won't meet with the king during his visit. our royal correspondent daniela relph has more. what we've created... the duke of sussex, back in the uk and back supporting the invictus games, the event for injured military personnel that prince harry created. what started as a little idea actually stolen from the americans, and made bigger and better. it's not often you can say that!

recognising what the invictus games have achieved is the focus of this visit. what the trip to london won't include is a meeting with the king. leaving clarence house back in february, prince harry made a flying visit to london after the king's cancer diagnosis. but this time round, prince harry's team say the king's full programme means there isn't time for father and son to meet. it is a reminder that the family tension of recent years hasn't eased. these visits back to the uk are difficult for both prince harry and the royal family, with relationships still strained. but latertoday, here at st paul's cathedral, prince harry will be amongst friends and colleagues as he celebrates ten years of the invictus games. prince harry has travelled to london alone, but will be reunited with his wife, meghan, duchess of sussex, later this week when they visit nigeria together, a country likely to host a future invictus games. daniela relph, bbc news,

st paul's cathedral. a family of lions rescued from ukraine have been released into their new home at a wildlife park in south yorkshire. it is quite a change, isn't it? issa and her three 18—month—old cubs emi, santa and teddi were rescued from the donetsk region. they arrived at the yorkshire wildlife park in march and have spent the last two months in rehabilitation. the park said it was heart—warming to see the family reunited. look! they look glad to be back. very beautiful pictures. that is a lovely story. here's matt with a look at the weather. ijust i just saw your picture and thought it was snow. it is spring flowers. it is. it is a bit misty and murky

out there this morning if you are about to hit the roads and pavements, thejourney about to hit the roads and pavements, the journey to work. this was taken in northamptonshire by a weather watcher alfie cole. not quite as murky across scotland. not as bright as elsewhere once the fog has cleared. in the north and west of scotland we will see when later on in the day. seven to ii of scotland we will see when later on in the day. seven to 11 degrees to start wednesday morning. the mist and fog patches quite extensive. it may stay murky across eastern coasts. one or two fog patches in the west. most will brighten up with sunshine. brighter in northern ireland and scotland where there will be lots of cloud through the day. the cloud will thicken later to bring outbreaks of rain. by the end of the afternoon into the evening we will see some of it pushing into northern ireland. 12 to 14 degrees

with the rain. up to 19 celsius in scotland. if you are a hay fever sufferer, pollen is continuing to rise. high levels across much of england and wales in particular. when the sun is out, particularly strong sunshine at the time of year. this evening and overnight mist and fog will return. a damp night through scotland and northern ireland. outbreaks of rain and drizzle for a time. lingering around the highlands and islands. by day we will warm up and see more centring as we head towards the start of the weekend. back to you both. see you later. when toby addison lost his sight as a teenager, he says he went off the rails and struggled to cope — but over the years he's refused to let it restrict his life. toby started posting videos about his disability on social media, and his refreshingly honest approach has earned him a huge following. reporter simon marks

has been to meet him. i was born visually impaired, and i was told i had a condition called retinitis pigmentosa. my sight was lost slowly over many, many years, and by the time i was 16, that's when i lost all my functional vision. and what effect did that have on you? you were still at school. yeah, i was doing my gcses at the time when my eyesight started to go really, really quickly. and, yeah, i went off the rails a little bit and — yeah, didn't respond in the best way. naturally, i don't think there's a right way to respond to losing your sight. so what happened to your social life at that point, when you lost your sight? did you find that your friends stuck by you? theyjust took a step back, i think, and i became quite isolated and i spent a lot of time in what was called the student support centre. i used to eat my lunches in there and, yeah, i didn't really want to go outside — i felt a bit embarrassed and, yeah, a bit lonely. but, yeah, i went to university after i finished in school and thankfully i had a clean — clean start then and, you know, my social life is buzzing now. and toby is also buzzing on tiktok and instagram — where he talks about his blindness in a refreshingly honest way.

people thought that i'd never amass to anything — and, to be fair, neither did i, due to my disability. blind people can't succeed or have fulfilling lives, right? it would have been quite easy for me to believe that, and live a life of no independence, but sometimes you've got to flip the script. excuse me, do you know what stations this train stops? —— excuse me, do you know what stations this train stops at? oh, sorry — i didn't realise you were blind. you wouldn't know, would you? bognor, barnham, ford, arundel, amberley, pulborough, billingshurst, christs hospital, horsham, crawley, three bridges, gatwick airport, east croydon, clapham junction, london victoria. your social media presence is off the scale. you're very popular. i don't know why! how did that happen? um, it's a bit of luck, really. i reacted to a viral video of myself on someone else's page, and the video that i made ended up going viral — that was my first video — and i thought, "ok, well, let'sjust keep going, let's see what happens," and, yeah, i gained a large amount of traction very, very quickly. here are some of the most satisfying sensory experiences that you can have that aren't visual. the sound of hitting a strike when you're bowling. i mean, when you're bowling blind, it's difficult anyway, but you cannot mistake the sound

of a strike. it is so satisfying. and you're very honest on social media — you're talking about things that other people perhaps wouldn't be comfortable talking about — like things like going to the toilet. you would think that people would tread on eggshells when asking questions about my life, but i can tell you for sure, that is not the case. so today i'll be answering my most common question that i get — how do i wipe my bum? they laugh. yeah, i pride myself on being open and transparent, you know — i like to make people laugh and people are interested in these questions and i don't really get embarrassed about anything now. so if anyone's going to answer those silly questions like, "how do i know when i'm done wiping?" it's going to be me. at some point in life, everyone will face a barrier and it's so easy to just give up because something's in your way. if you do that, you'll never get what you want. push the boundaries, and don't let your circumstances dictate your life. because if a blind man can do it, anyone can. do you think you might be becoming a role model? i like to think that i've got a positive influence over people who are maybe losing their sight, parents of kids who are

losing their sight — you know, reassuring people that disability isn't something to be scared of. that's my ultimate aim. so you came to university here in chichester. yes. oh, god, the cobbled streets! and you don't have a guide dog? no, i'm a cane user. i love my cane. michael cane is my best friend in my world. all right, fellas, let's go for a walk down chichester canal. first, i've got to navigate these barriers. me and michael cane are having a rough time, but we get through. here, i'm brushing the grass on my left to make sure that i don't fall in the canal — not really fancying that one today. i don't ever want people to look at my content and think that blindness is a walk in the park because i put a smile on my face. i think it's really important to recognise that it's a tough journey, and you have to do a lot of work on yourself to be able to be content with your life and, you know, fully accept your disability. don't force yourself down certain avenues — just go with the flow, and hopefully things will work out for you. wise words. that was toby addison speaking to our reporter simon marks. let's take a look at today's papers. in the times, the front page reports

how tiktok and instagram will be told to repress algorithms. we have been talking about the measures that have been announced already today. more detail at half past six. the guardian reporting the exclusive garrick club in london has voted to allow women members after being male only for 193 years. about time, perhaps! the mirror reports pubs will be able to stay open till one o'clock in the morning if england or scotland reach the semifinals. it would only apply in england and wales. this lovely picture. the film if had its premiere last night. it is all about imaginary friends. one of the stars of the film... looks

pretty real to me. a big purple friend. giving him a big hug. very cuddly. maybe not so cuddly but definitely interesting, a story about the language of wales. we know they can make clicking sounds. i thought you meant the welsh language! they can talk to each other, communicate. turns out they can talk in a really complicated way to each other. research suggests communication is complex and structured in a way not dissimilar to how humans use language. they even have regional dialects. we still do not know what they are saying, we do not have a clue. but on the subtitles! we are the equivalent of baby wales trying to learn what their parents are saying. an extra click is very often very significant. we believe, if you

think whales can talk, what about worms? we are being asked to help out with a big survey of the ground. go into the garden, the park and dance on the spot for a few minutes and see how many worms come to the surface. we dance, the worms come up. that is a sign of how fertile the grounders. it is based on the fact i remember going to a worm charming championship in nantwich, cheshire. there was one in falmouth. i took part. i charmed. none came up. i was not very charming. they all come up. people try all sorts of things. they use spades and violence. the vibrations bring them up. i never knew that. i will go and

chime some worms! 25 past six. —— charm. for the big day, you dream of a nice day for a white wedding, but we're having a bit of a soggy start to the season this year. we go full pelt into wedding season. nina's at a wedding venue in bolton this morning to see how the wet weather is affecting things. ezra and vincent getting hitched today. good morning from the well—being farm. and you can enable. we arejust outside well—being farm. and you can enable. we are just outside in bolton well—being farm. and you can enable. we arejust outside in bolton in lancashire. this venue is stunning. they have that bow ties on. whatever the weather, this way. these guys will come out for your photos. they might look more bedraggled if the

weather is not right. come on. i might need your help. if you are getting hitched this year, it will not have gone unnoticed we had the six wettest april on record. you will have been watching leisure ports with interest, hoping that on your big day... ezra is more well—behaved. the weather can have a huge impact on photos and guests, whether they can get there. look at this view! even then that thunderstorm —— is even in a thunderstorm. we will look at what you can do about wet weather, whether you can get insurance. over the lockdown, half of couples took out insurance. is it worth taking it out? what can you do to make sure your big day goes ahead and if you are well covered, ezra, if things

start to go wrong. we'll take in the view, maybe get some breakfast, learn how to do some axe throwing, as you do. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello. good morning. this is your bbc london news with me frankie, mccamley. there's more disruption for rail passengers this morning as the train drivers' union aslef continues its industrial action. services including great western, avanti west coast and chiltern railway, are among those affected. other lines might be affected by an overtime ban. so do check if you're travelling today. the general medical council has seen a surge in complaints about doctors subjecting jewish colleagues to anti—semitic abuse. from the start of 2023, the gmc received eight complaints.however, in the four months after the hamas attacks, 60 medical professionals were reported for alleged anti—semitic conduct across the uk this is quite unusual.

it's quite a new thing to be reported. this is the one part of society where we expect everybody to always behave with complete professionalism, and the idea that even in this part of society, anti—semitism has gone up, and jewish doctors are experiencing that kind of prejudice from colleagues, is really shocking and appalling. children given everyday foods to treat milk and peanut allergies are showing dramatic signs of improvement. five hospitals, including london's imperial health care trust have joined a trial, thanks to funding from the natasha allergy research foundation. natasha, from fulham, died in 2016 after an allergic reaction to sesame in a pret baguette. natasha would be over the moon that we are actually doing this in her name. it's a form of legacy, if you will, but i think the greatest honour

i think any human being can give to anyone else is to help them. help them with their lives. and i think that's very much natasha's spirit, and that's what we're doing, you know, helping otherfamilies overcome the very things that we were unable to overcome in natasha's life. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's just minor delays on the northern line due to a shortage of trains. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it is a rather misty and murky start this morning, some low cloud, mist and fog. could be quite stubborn for a time, but eventually burning back to some warm sunshine. now, it could take its time, but once it does, we'll see those temperatures rising. the wind is light, and we're looking at a maximum today in that warm sunshine of around 21 celsius. into this evening, some sun trying to end the day, then overnight clear spells to start with. likely to see a bit more cloud, mist and fog developing through the night as well. the minimum temperature between seven and 11 celsius. so again, a misty, murky start to thursday. high pressure, though, you can see is still in charge,

so it's fairly settled. now, it's likely to burn back a bit quicker tomorrow than it does today, so we'll see that sunshine a little sooner. it is going to feel warm tomorrow too. the maximum temperature is going to get up to 23 celsius. now, there's high—pressure stays with us through this week and through the weekend, so plenty of fine, dry, sunny in the forecast, and temperatures warmer as we head towards saturday. that's it from me for now. i'm back in half an hour. until then it's back to sally and jon. hello. this is breakfast with jon kay and sally nugent. this morning, on a special edition of bbc breakfast, we're asking a question that is raised by parents and grandparents across the uk every day. how safe is the internet for our children. joining us in the studio are 11 parents who believe social media played a part in their children's deaths.

today they are sending an open letter to the prime minister and the labour leader, sir keir starmer, urging them to make online safety a priority. and at eight o'clock, they will get the chance to put their questions to the government's technology minister and the head of the regulator, ofcom. but first let's hear from the families of the children at the heart of this story. so, maya, what are you going to do in the future? maya had her life all mapped out. a straight row of as as soon as i get to secondary school, succeed in college and get my qualifications, get a greatjob. but even in paradise, maya's phone was a distraction. she was 13 when she died. her dad found self—harm videos on her mobile. sophie was also 13. i had a look at her ipad and was horrified to find memes,

imagery, online material that showed how you could kill yourself. 14—year—old molly had been consumed by these videos. a coroner said harmful online content contributed to her death. i have no doubt instagram helped kill my daughter. i christopher was 15. they sent christopher a photo with knives. she was saying to him, "you've got to try it". brianna's murderers had watched videos of torture and murder on the dark web. they were 15. ollie died when he was 13. they're seeing things they shouldn't be seeing at those ages. _ our children are dying. amanda and stuart's son was stabbed by boys who'd shared violent videos online, who'd planned his murder in chat groups.

they're just thrust into a world that's too much for them too young. too violent, too graphic. # happy birthday to you... isaac died when he was 13, jules when he was 1a, archie atjust 12. they were all found unconscious and unresponsive by their mothers, who've been fighting for access to their children's social media accounts. if i knew about these online challenges, then i would have had the conversation with archie. something needs to be done. maya took her own life after being bullied in school and online. it's unbearable. it is unbearable. sorry. 15—year—old breck was groomed and murdered by an online gamer who reported the crime before posting images of his victim's body

in a chat group. breck could have been saved if only we had been more aware. - 11 young lives cut far too short. today their families speak out in the hope they can protect others. and here they are with us in the studio. good morning to all of you. 11 parents from 11 families, lives forever changed, and they will be putting their questions a bit later in the programme to a government minister and the head of ofcom. we are going to start this morning with mariano. thank you so much for coming in this morning to talk about maya, and it is very much an opportunity to do something constructive, to make a change. you've all been through this awful experience, and i know that you are all here because you don't want anybody else to experience this from now on. so tell us, what do you

think should change about children's access to social media, what difference would it have made for mia? to difference would it have made for mia? ., , ., ., ., mia? to be safer, we have to have some boundaries. _ mia? to be safer, we have to have some boundaries. i— mia? to be safer, we have to have some boundaries. i am _ mia? to be safer, we have to have some boundaries. i am against - some boundaries. i am against banning phones or all this, some boundaries. i am against banning phones orall this, banning is not good, it is forbidden fruit, we have to have a say on the internet, social media places, regulated, and learn to live with this. it is a modern tool, it is part of our ages, part of our daily life. but unfortunately i think the tech companies need to understand the concept of safeguarding and well—being of our kids, and they have the resources and the

technology to do something as well. we are going to talk a bit later about the government's new law, and how that might work and what else you might to see change, and i know you might to see change, and i know you have ideas about what might not work and what might work, and we will go through those things with you. ln, tell us aboutjules. yes. you. ln, tell us about jules. yes, jules was- -- _ you. ln, tell us about jules. yes, jules was... sorry. _ you. ln, tell us about jules. yes, jules was... sorry. take - you. ln, tell us about jules. yes, jules was... sorry. take your - you. ln, tell us about jules. yes, | jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go — jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go it _ jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go it your _ jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go it your speed. _ jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go it your speed. he - jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go it your speed. he was i jules was... sorry. take your time. we will go it your speed. he was a | we will go it your speed. he was a lovely child. _ we will go it your speed. he was a lovely child, of _ we will go it your speed. he was a lovely child, of normal— we will go it your speed. he was a lovely child, of normal health, - we will go it your speed. he was a | lovely child, of normal health, and in 2022, two years ago, i came home and my world had changed, and we don't know why he did what he did.

the coroner didn't rule that it was suicide because they couldn't prove he was in a suicidal mood. you take it on board when the police tell you these things, and you are in this world of haze, looking back now, it is not good enough. why did my son do that? he was absolutely fine an hour and a half before. you can hear him on the door bell saying goodbye to his friend, and he was a normal, happy child. so what happened to make him suddenly decide to end his life? �* ., , ., make him suddenly decide to end his life? ., , life? and what you suspect happened? i don't know life? and what you suspect happened? i don't know if— life? and what you suspect happened? i don't know if it _ life? and what you suspect happened? i don't know if it is _ life? and what you suspect happened? i don't know if it is social— life? and what you suspect happened? i don't know if it is social media, - i don't know if it is social media, but i think as parents we should have the right to be able to see it, and i don't have the right to see my child's social media. we can see medical records, bank statements, but not their social media, and i should be able to at least rule out if it is that, and if it isn't, why are they hiding it, why can't i see it? ., , ~ .,

it? so that is the kind of thing you want to put _ it? so that is the kind of thing you want to put questions _ it? so that is the kind of thing you want to put questions to - it? so that is the kind of thing you want to put questions to later? i it? so that is the kind of thing you l want to put questions to later? yes. that will surprise _ want to put questions to later? yes. that will surprise a _ want to put questions to later? yes. that will surprise a lot _ want to put questions to later? yes. that will surprise a lot of _ want to put questions to later? yes that will surprise a lot of parents watching this morning who will assume that you should be able to look at what your child has been looking at. but what barriers do you come up against a?— looking at. but what barriers do you come up against a? tiktok have 'ust said that without fl come up against a? tiktok have 'ust said that without a i come up against a? tiktok have 'ust said that without a court * come up against a? tiktok have 'ust said that without a court order h come up against a? tiktok have just said that without a court order you l said that without a court order you can't do it, so we then have to get a court order to get my child's social media, to even just rule it out, but i am left as a parent, i'm left going, why is my child not here? that is not acceptable to me. you must feel powerless. if here? that is not acceptable to me. you must feel powerless. i! it here? that is not acceptable to me. you must feel powerless.— you must feel powerless. if it was a child that died — you must feel powerless. if it was a child that died of _ you must feel powerless. if it was a child that died of an _ you must feel powerless. if it was a child that died of an illness, - you must feel powerless. if it was a child that died of an illness, you - child that died of an illness, you could do a postmortem to find out what it was, and we are just told we have to accept why, we don't know why, and that is not good enough. ruth, tell us a little bit about sophie, because i know you are here and a slightly different circumstances, but there is a theme that links all of you.— that links all of you. absolutely. sohie that links all of you. absolutely. sephie died _ that links all of you. absolutely. sophie died in _ that links all of you. absolutely. sophie died in 2014 _ that links all of you. absolutely. sophie died in 2014 really - that links all of you. absolutely. | sophie died in 2014 really before this topic— sophie died in 2014 really before this topic was in the news, and when

iwent_ this topic was in the news, and when iwenl on— this topic was in the news, and when iwenl on to — this topic was in the news, and when i went on to her social media, she died _ i went on to her social media, she died by— i went on to her social media, she died by suicide 13. when i went on to her_ died by suicide 13. when i went on to her soclai— died by suicide 13. when i went on to her social media, there was a barrage — to her social media, there was a barrage of— to her social media, there was a barrage of really distressing material on her ipad and on her phone, — material on her ipad and on her phone, and _ material on her ipad and on her phone, and she had been required to have a _ phone, and she had been required to have a tablet for school, for homework purposes, so we had given her that— homework purposes, so we had given her that for— homework purposes, so we had given her that for school, and we found it really _ her that for school, and we found it really difficult to control. we had parental— really difficult to control. we had parental controls at home. we had them _ parental controls at home. we had them at _ parental controls at home. we had them at the school, they had them. she would _ them at the school, they had them. she would access the internet in other— she would access the internet in other ways, she would access the internet in otherways, if she would access the internet in other ways, if she was on the bus coming _ other ways, if she was on the bus coming home with her brother, and i was horrified — coming home with her brother, and i was horrified to see the amount, the quantity— was horrified to see the amount, the quantity and the actual content was really _ quantity and the actual content was really distressing. she had managed to investigate and research how she was going _ to investigate and research how she was going to die by suicide, and it was going to die by suicide, and it was blatant and it was horrifying. no 13—year—old should see that sort of materiat — no 13—year—old should see that sort of material. it no 13-year-old should see that sort of material-— of material. it is almost impossible to olice of material. it is almost impossible to police for— of material. it is almost impossible to police for parents, _

of material. it is almost impossible to police for parents, isn't - of material. it is almost impossible to police for parents, isn't it? - to police for parents, isn't it? tell us how difficult that was for you. it tell us how difficult that was for ou. ., , tell us how difficult that was for ou. . , . , tell us how difficult that was for ou. . , ., , ., tell us how difficult that was for ou. . , . , . . . you. it was really hard. we did all the thins you. it was really hard. we did all the things parents _ you. it was really hard. we did all the things parents should - you. it was really hard. we did all the things parents should do. - you. it was really hard. we did all the things parents should do. we| you. it was really hard. we did all - the things parents should do. we had those _ the things parents should do. we had those conversations, we locked down our internet. — those conversations, we locked down our internet, and yet she still would — our internet, and yet she still would find ways to circumvent the things _ would find ways to circumvent the things that we had put in place, and ithink— things that we had put in place, and i think the _ things that we had put in place, and i think the thing that struck me was it was— i think the thing that struck me was it wasjust — i think the thing that struck me was it wasjust too i think the thing that struck me was it was just too big, it was ubiquitous, it was everywhere, see you cant— ubiquitous, it was everywhere, see you can't escape it. it was very difficult. — you can't escape it. it was very difficult. , ., , ., ., ., difficult. ten years on, we have a new act, difficult. ten years on, we have a new act. a _ difficult. ten years on, we have a new act. a law — difficult. ten years on, we have a new act, a law which _ difficult. ten years on, we have a new act, a law which is _ difficult. ten years on, we have a new act, a law which is supposed j difficult. ten years on, we have a i new act, a law which is supposed to clamp down on the kind of exposure young people have on social media. what are you looking to hear this morning from the government minister and the head of ofcom about how this might be prevented for kids in the future? i might be prevented for kids in the future? ., might be prevented for kids in the future? . . ,, ., . , might be prevented for kids in the future? . ., . , ., future? i want assurances that ofcom will do the things _ future? i want assurances that ofcom will do the things that _ future? i want assurances that ofcom will do the things that they _ future? i want assurances that ofcom will do the things that they say - will do the things that they say that they will do, and the second

thing _ that they will do, and the second thing is, — that they will do, and the second thing is, for me, i've watched the transition — thing is, for me, i've watched the transition of — thing is, for me, i've watched the transition of technology throughout the ages. _ transition of technology throughout the ages, so tiktok didn't exist when _ the ages, so tiktok didn't exist when sophie was alive, so i want to confirnration— when sophie was alive, so i want to confirmation as well that this isn't 'ust confirmation as well that this isn't just a _ confirmation as well that this isn't just a tick— confirmation as well that this isn't just a tick box exercise that ends today, _ just a tick box exercise that ends today, that — just a tick box exercise that ends today, that as technology changes the government will listen to parents — the government will listen to parents and adapt, and to make sure that this _ parents and adapt, and to make sure that this is _ parents and adapt, and to make sure that this is an ongoing issue that is dealt — that this is an ongoing issue that is dealt with. | that this is an ongoing issue that is dealt with.— is dealt with. i can see you listening — is dealt with. i can see you listening there _ is dealt with. i can see you listening there and - is dealt with. i can see you| listening there and nodding is dealt with. i can see you - listening there and nodding along, ian. those words resonate for you too. , , ., ., , too. yes. i 'ust want to see it safer than — too. yes. i 'ust want to see it safer than it — too. yes. ijust want to see it safer than it currently _ too. yes. ijust want to see it safer than it currently is. - too. yes. ijust want to see it safer than it currently is. that i too. yes. ijust want to see it safer than it currently is. that is| safer than it currently is. that is all i _ safer than it currently is. that is all i want — safer than it currently is. that is all i want to— safer than it currently is. that is all i want to see. _ safer than it currently is. that is all i want to see. it— safer than it currently is. that is all i want to see. it seems- safer than it currently is. that is. all i want to see. it seems simply put. all i want to see. it seems simply out i_ all i want to see. it seems simply out i did — all i want to see. it seems simply out. i did trust _ all i want to see. it seems simply put. i did trust it, _ all i want to see. it seems simply put. idid trust it, |_ all i want to see. it seems simply put. i did trust it, i trusted - all i want to see. it seems simply put. i did trust it, i trusted the i put. i did trust it, i trusted the environment, _ put. i did trust it, i trusted the environment, and _ put. i did trust it, i trusted the environment, and i— put. i did trust it, i trusted the environment, and i was - put. i did trust it, i trusted the| environment, and i was wrong. put. i did trust it, i trusted the - environment, and i was wrong. and it would _ environment, and i was wrong. and it would be _ environment, and i was wrong. and it would be good — environment, and i was wrong. and it would be good if— environment, and i was wrong. and it would be good if that— environment, and i was wrong. and it would be good if that was _ environment, and i was wrong. and it would be good if that was rectified. . would be good if that was rectified. your daughter— would be good if that was rectified. your daughter was— would be good if that was rectified. your daughter was maya. _ would be good if that was rectified. your daughter was maya. what - your daughter was maya. what happened to her? she

your daughter was maya. what happened to her?— your daughter was maya. what happened to her? your daughter was maya. what ha ened to her? . ., , ., happened to her? she got pulled into a circus through _ happened to her? she got pulled into a circus through tiktok _ happened to her? she got pulled into a circus through tiktok into _ happened to her? she got pulled into a circus through tiktok into suicide i a circus through tiktok into suicide ideology, _ a circus through tiktok into suicide ideology, which— a circus through tiktok into suicide ideology, which she _ a circus through tiktok into suicide ideology, which she was _ a circus through tiktok into suicide ideology, which she was sharing i a circus through tiktok into suicide. ideology, which she was sharing and lrantering _ ideology, which she was sharing and lrantering with — ideology, which she was sharing and bantering with her— ideology, which she was sharing and bantering with her friends, - ideology, which she was sharing and bantering with her friends, and - bantering with her friends, and things— bantering with her friends, and things went _ bantering with her friends, and things went from _ bantering with her friends, and things went from rosy, - bantering with her friends, and. things went from rosy, beautiful bantering with her friends, and - things went from rosy, beautiful and positive, _ things went from rosy, beautiful and positive, and — things went from rosy, beautiful and positive, and embracing _ things went from rosy, beautiful and positive, and embracing of- things went from rosy, beautiful and positive, and embracing of life, - things went from rosy, beautiful and positive, and embracing of life, to i positive, and embracing of life, to that caught — positive, and embracing of life, to that caught her— positive, and embracing of life, to that caught her on _ positive, and embracing of life, to that caught her on a _ positive, and embracing of life, to that caught her on a bad - positive, and embracing of life, to that caught her on a bad day, - positive, and embracing of life, to that caught her on a bad day, and| positive, and embracing of life, to. that caught her on a bad day, and it took _ took... so - took... i so sorry. took... - so sorry. so took... — so sorry. so sorry to all of you. but it is incredibly powerful to see and hear all of you together this morning. what kind of sense do you get from this solidarity, although your experiences are different, can your experiences are different, can you just explain, to be here together? youjust explain, to be here together?— youjust explain, to be here touether? , ., , ., ., . youjust explain, to be here touether? , ., ., together? just a stronger voice. to have all these _ together? just a stronger voice. to have all these people _ together? just a stronger voice. to have all these people on _

together? just a stronger voice. to have all these people on the - together? just a stronger voice. to | have all these people on the couch, a club that we would never want to be in. it pulls us all together for a greater voice, and wejust want some accountability, and if we can stop one parent going through what we are going through, then we have done a good job, but the sad thing is the snail pace that is happening with ofcom and social media platforms taking responsibility, the reality is there will be more cases. and, lisa, what would you like people to know about isaac? like man of people to know about isaac? like many of these — people to know about isaac? l age: many of these children, he was a happy, normal boy, the zest of life. he wanted to be rich, he wanted to look after his mum and dad. he was loving. everyday he told us that he loved us. he was highly inquisitive, intelligent, and hejust wanted loved us. he was highly inquisitive, intelligent, and he just wanted to know how things worked. and he got sucked in to doing something that he

got a high out of by doing the blackout challenge, and he took it a little bit further, and consequently he passed away on the 9th of march 2022. �* he passed away on the 9th of march 2022. ~ i. , he passed away on the 9th of march 2022. ~ , ., 2022. and lisa, you must feel now, like a lot of— 2022. and lisa, you must feel now, like a lot of you, _ 2022. and lisa, you must feel now, like a lot of you, like _ 2022. and lisa, you must feel now, like a lot of you, like you _ 2022. and lisa, you must feel now, like a lot of you, like you want - 2022. and lisa, you must feel now, like a lot of you, like you want to i like a lot of you, like you want to shout at people about this. how frustrating is it that still, for children, the internet, social media, doesn't feel regulated? it is hiahl media, doesn't feel regulated? it 3 highly frustrating, because it's almost like an insult to us parents, like they are not taking it seriously enough. like ruth said, it is a tick box, they are just ticking and making all the right sounds, but not the right action, and it is frustrating. but hopefully with all of us together, the voice will get louder. ., ~ of us together, the voice will get louder. . ~' , ., of us together, the voice will get louder. ., ,, , ., ., , of us together, the voice will get louder. ., ,, ., , louder. thank you for using your voice is so _ louder. thank you for using your voice is so far— louder. thank you for using your voice is so far this _ louder. thank you for using your voice is so far this morning. - louder. thank you for using your voice is so far this morning. we | voice is so far this morning. we will let you go and have a little

break, have a cup of tea, and we will hearfrom all of break, have a cup of tea, and we will hear from all of you as the programme goes on, especially at eight o'clock when we will have a special hour of the programme devoted to you and your stories and your questions, and we will try and get you some answers, so thank you all again. and as sally was saying, it is so important to have you all here this morning. thank you for now. it is 6.46. here's matt with a look at the weather. thank you very much, sally. good morning to you. it could be a slow commute across parts of england and wales. it is a misty, foggy start. you can see here a short while ago, in lincolnshire, across many areas, that fog should clear. sunshine developing a bit more widely. not as much sunshine across parts of scotland and northern ireland, and the reason is a high pressure has now established itself across a good part of england and wales. we do have outbreaks of rain in strengthening winds set to push its

way into scotland and northern ireland later. it does start dry, there will be some brightness even when the cloud around. mist and fog elsewhere will start to shift and clear, could linger around the coasts as we go through today, but it will stay largely dry here, and on the isolated chance of a shower for england and wales. scotland and northern ireland, the cloud continues to thicken, and across the western isles and highlands we could see rain into the afternoon and evening across parts of northern ireland too. where the cloud thickens, temperatures 12—14 c, but it could be between 18 and 21 or 22 elsewhere, so feeling warm in the developing strong sunshine. this evening and overnight, outbreaks of rain for scotland and northern ireland, the dampers to condition still across the western side of the highlands into tomorrow morning starts like this morning with temperatures around 8—11 . lots of cloud to begin with, especially through scotland and northern ireland, damp at times in the far

north—west but for most it will be a dry day. mist and fog should clear quicker tomorrow, the more sunshine developing, certainly more across scotland and northern ireland, and temperatures creeping up as will pollen levels as we go through tomorrow. 22 or 23 the high across some parts of central england. warmer still into friday, a fair bit of cloud, mist and fog but increasing amounts of sunshine by this stage into scotland and northern ireland, and we should see temperatures a bit more widely here reach around 20 degrees, if not a little bit higher. as we go through friday and into the weekend, we still have high pressure in charge, certainly to begin with, we will start to see whether france closing into western areas on sunday, that could bring the risk of showers and thunderstorms, particularly through the channel islands and out towards the channel islands and out towards the west, but the emphasis certainly on saturday once we have cleared the mist and fog, some long sunny spells, temperatures could hit 24 degrees in a few areas, 22 is the

high for parts of scotland, but sunday after a bright and sunny start, we will see showers and storms develop mainly in the far west. that is how it is looking. thank you very much indeed. it is almost ten to seven. we will be getting an idea shortly of who was in the eurovision final on saturday night, and also who is going to be in the champions league final. and tonight especially, harry kane orjude bellingham? whilst last night, borussia dortmund knocked out psg. kylian mbappe eight makes the move to germany to join dortmund, and now he has champions league final to come. he looks quite pleased about it! we just wonder who will be celebrating, will it be bayern munich or real madrid? there will be no kylian

mbappe in the champions league final. it will be played in london at wordle stadium injune the 1st. rosi dortmund were already ahead. they were 1—0 up from the first leg, and defender mats hummels scored in the second half to make it 2—0 overall. even kylian mbappe a could not inspire a psg comeback. dortmund are only fifth in the german league, but they're through to the final on the 1st ofjune at wembley, where they will face either bayern munich on spanish champions real madrid. it's only the second time they've made the final. the first was in 2013 under jurgen klopp at wembley. they lost to bayern munich. he will be disappointed, but who will make the final? jude bellingham and harry kane, locking horns again later in their second leg. you might rememberjude bellingham had tried to put his international team—mate kane off before he scored his penalty as bayern and real madrid drew the first leg. so what did his manager

make of it all? i thinkjude is a fantastic guy. i think he respects everyone, and he has a really good relationship with harry kane. i think for the national team, there are no problems. he is downplaying it now, but it could get pretty fiery later. nottingham forest won't be getting any of their points back for breaking premier league spending rules. had they done, that would have as good as relegated burnley and given luton an even bigger task. only two wins out of two can save burnley from relegation and they need forest to lose both. luton also need two wins. there were flares, fans and the final to come. it was quite the night in bolton last night. there was a pitch invasion. bolton into the league1 play—off final after surviving a late comeback from barnsley.

they will face either oxford or peterborough at wembley. the last time bolton were in a playoff final sam allardyce was in charge and they beat a preston side managed by david moyes. how is that for a trip down memory lane? crawley town have a 3—0 lead over mk dons after the first leg of their league two playoff. liam kelly scored a brilliant opening goal which sets them up nicely for the return leg in milton keynes on saturday. and luke macbeth scored an outstanding golfer partick thistle. the second leg is on friday. he might be a tour de france champion, but britain's geraint thomas remained second in the juried

in the giro d'italia after a tight finish on stage four yesterday. he and the leader tadej pogacar finished in the peleton behind the sprinters. there were some pretty bad crashes in slippery conditions, but the leaders escaped injury free. thank you for now. there was no shortage of extravagant outfits, eccentric songs and dramatic staging at the first eurovision semifinal last night. hopefully no crashes, though! it was a bit car crash at times. the uk's entrant olly alexander got the chance to perform his song dizzy live on the big stage in malmo, and ireland broke its eurovision "curse" by qualifying for the grand final for the first time since 2018. our media and arts correspondent david sillito has this report — but a warning, it does contain flashing images. cheering. welcome to the eurovision

song contest 2024. and so it begins. eurovision 2024, and the first semifinal. and while the uk is automatically guaranteed a place in saturday's main event, this opening show was a chance for olly alexander to reveal his gravity—defying eurovision routine. it was definitely slightly dizzying, and it's a reminder ofjust how much these days is put into staging and spectacle. # so take me there. # won't you make me dizzy for your kisses...# croatia's baby lasagna with rim tim tagi dim are the bookies' favourites with a song... ..that got the arena singing. and then there's ireland, which was this year trying something a bit different.

meet bambie thug, and a performance with a certain wow factor. hi, my name is bambie thug. so how would you describe your style? ouija pop. nonbinary, alt witch, boss. and the reaction in ireland, would it be fair to say mixed? yeah, definitely. definitely a mixed reaction. some priests not liking me very much. and... i don't think you're too bothered by that, are you? no, not really. but behind the pyrotechnics, there's a political undercurrent this year with questions about israel taking part, and eurovision wanting to keep politics off stage. bambie thug was told to remove writing declaring freedom for palestine. but, at the end of the evening, it was all about the spectacle on stage.

it's ireland. and the joy of ireland making it to the final. and it really matters for ireland because it has the most illustrious eurovision past. but, in recent years, well, it's been a bit of a sad time. it's been six... six years since they qualified. but now they are finally through to the final with bambie thug. cheering. the party is well and truly under way. david sillito, bbc news, malmo. they look quite pleased by that! if you are called 'bambie thug, you deserve to get through to the final.

it is a whole week, it is going to be fun. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today... a very good morning. let's get your bbc london news with me, frankie mccamley. bad news for rail passengers this morning with more diruption expected as the train drivers' union aslef continues its industrial action. 16 services, including crosscountry, east midlands and the heathrow express are among those affected. other lines might be affected by an overtime ban. so its worth checking if you're travelling today and tomorrow. the general medical council has seen a surge in complaints about doctors subjecting jewish colleagues to antisemitic abuse.

from the start of 2023, the gmc received eight complaints. however, in the four months after the hamas attacks, 60 medical professionals were reported for alleged antisemitic conduct across the uk. this is quite unusual. it's quite a new thing to be reported. this is the one part of society where we expect everybody to always behave with complete professionalism, and the idea that even in this part of society, anti—semitism has gone up, and jewish doctors are experiencing that kind of prejudice from colleagues, is really shocking and appalling. the thames barrier is celebrating its 40th anniversary. it's is one of the largest movable flood barriers in the world. when it first officially opened back in 1984 it was expected to be used once or twice a year but since then has been used increasingly often. global warming, climate change weren't in the dictionary at the time, but we knew that river levels were increasing. now we've carried out full reports to see actually what is happening, working with the experts,

and taking account of that, yes, it is due to climate change. but it's still within the design. you know, we've got that capability to close the barrier up to at least 50 times per year. a few issues on the tubes so far. minor delays on the northern and victoria lines. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it is a rather misty and murky start this morning, some low cloud, mist and fog. could be quite stubborn for a time, but eventually burning back to some warm sunshine. now, it could take its time, but once it does, we'll see those temperatures rising. the wind is light, and we're looking at a maximum today in that warm sunshine of around 21 celsius. into this evening, some sun trying to end the day, then overnight clear spells to start with. —— into this evening, some sunshine to end the day, then overnight clear spells to start with. likely to see a bit more cloud, mist and fog developing through the night as well. the minimum temperature between 7 and 11 celsius.

so again, a misty, murky start to thursday. high pressure, though, you can see is still in charge, so it's fairly settled. it's likely to burn back a bit quicker tomorrow than it does today, so we'll see that sunshine a little sooner. it is going to feel warm tomorrow too. the maximum temperature is going to get up to 23 celsius. now, there's high—pressure stays with us through this week and through the weekend, so plenty of fine, dry, sunny in the forecast, and temperatures warmer as we head towards saturday. that's it from me for now. i'm back in half an hour. don't forget you can download the bbc news app or follow us on social media. see you in half an hour.

good morning. welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today... the parents of 11 children — whose deaths were linked to social media — call on rishi sunak and keir starmer to do more to protect young people online. it's so hard. and it's notjust that this content is there, that it's the platforms are promoting this content, their algorithms are suggesting to young people that they see ever more of it. it comes as the media regulator ofcom today sets out plans, which it says will force tech companies to make

their platforms safer. also this morning, chaos at airports across the country as a failure of e—gates at passport control causes long queues. iam underthe i am under the mighty menai bridge in north wales to look at how rising global sea temperatures are affecting the species here on the uk's rocky coasts. is it a nice day for— on the uk's rocky coasts. is it a nice day for a — on the uk's rocky coasts. is it a nice day for a wet _ on the uk's rocky coasts. is it a nice day for a wet wedding? - on the uk's rocky coasts. is it a nice day for a wet wedding? if i on the uk's rocky coasts. is it a i nice day for a wet wedding? if you are one _ nice day for a wet wedding? if you are one of— nice day for a wet wedding? if you are one of the 130,000 couples getting — are one of the 130,000 couples getting married this year, you will know— getting married this year, you will know that — getting married this year, you will know that bad weather has been blighting plans. we look at insurance policies taken out to protect — insurance policies taken out to protect it _ insurance policies taken out to protect it and the activities that were _ protect it and the activities that were almost whatever the weather. a game away from becoming

european champions. how jadon sancho's move from manchester to germany pays off as borussia dortmund spring a surprise to reach the champions league final, ending mbappe and paris saint—germain's hopes of lifting the title. for many getting married today, it is going _ for many getting married today, it is going to — for many getting married today, it is going to be a dry day. misty and foggy~ _ is going to be a dry day. misty and foggy~ in— is going to be a dry day. misty and foggy. in northern scotland there will be _ foggy. in northern scotland there will be when later on. the full forecast — will be when later on. the full forecast here on breakfast. . it's wednesday the 8th of may. our main story. the parents of 11 children who died after what they say were the failings of social media have called on rishi sunak and keir starmer to do more to protect young people online. in an open letter, they say they're disappointed by the lack of ambition shown by the regulator ofcom, which has today set out its plans to force tech companies to make their platforms safer. our correspondent angus crawford reports. i want to know what they've got to say, and i want them to meet

people with lived experience. it's really important to try and understand what ofcom are doing because from the outside they seem to be doing so little, which is ridiculous and frustrating. brianna and molly, their short lives spurring their parents on to try and make the online world a safer place for all children. we showed them posts and pictures, easy to find on social media of self—harm, suicide and eating disorders. had you, um... had you seen content like that? i know that brianna was accessing content like that, and it makes me feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent her from looking at it. it's so hard. and it's notjust that this content is there, that it's the platforms are promoting this content, their algorithms are

suggesting to young people that they see ever more of it. so people like brianna, people like molly and too many more. what we're doing is ensuring that we crack down on... years in the making, much delayed, the online safety act finally passed last year and promised to fix all this. the online safety bill will require platforms to remove and limit the spread of illegal content. now, they bring those questions to ofcom, the regulator, to find out what's going on. esther and ian, thank you so much for coming in. ofcom does have new powers under the act but it can't start enforcing them yet. today, it's launching a consultation on how best to protect children. but for ian and esther, delays cost lives. they show ofcom's chief executive the same self—harm suicide content we found online. that's what you've got to remove. yeah. so it isn't easily available. though, exactly. i mean, this has become normalised.

this sort of material has become normalised, notjust for adults, but for children. and honestly, i think we're going to look back on this, i hope we are anyway in five and ten years' time and just go, "how on earth did we let this happen?" nothing seems to have changed. this is... ..frustrating for, i think, parents like us, but frustrating for all parents. well, i agree. there is so much that needs to change here. and all i can say is that at ofcom, we are moving forward really, really fast to get these new laws properly set out in detail. and within a year they will be there, we will be able to enforce against them. and what we're saying to companies is, everybody has waited too long for change. i'd like to know what the reaction of the social media companies have been. these companies are on the west coast of america mostly, and they don't really hear and understand quite the impact that they're having on british families and on british kids. we're proposing changes that will require age checks, that will require those recommender

algorithms to change. pornography, suicide and self—harm material must not be served to under—18s and so the algorithms are going to have to change to make that happen. i think when you've been through something like what what we've been through, it could either break you or it can give you an extra level of mental resilience, i suppose. and i think that we've both got that and we've both got that drive. we'll be on ofcom's back every step of the way because, at the end of the day, there shouldn't be another molly and there shouldn't be another brianna. mm—hm. and we will be talking to ian, esther and the parents of nine other children, whose deaths have been linked to social media. passengers entering uk airports faced long delays last night

because of a technical problem with automated passport gates. queues began forming when the machines, which rely on facial recognition, stopped working. the home office has confirmed the "nationwide issue" is now resolved. our reporter nicky schiller has more. this is a passenger announcement... the scene that greeted passengers arriving at stansted airport last night. queues, very long queues. they were due to the failure of passport control e—gates, which went down just before 8 o'clock. as more flights landed, the queues got longer. delays were reported across the country, including at gatwick, edinburgh, birmingham, bristol, newcastle and manchester. unfortunately, there is a system outage and we do not have a timeframe given. because of that outage, border officials had to rush to manually process passport holders. here at heathrow, all corners

of the arrival areas were packed with passengers. some describe being kept on planes on the runway before being allowed to enter the terminal buildings. others saying they spent longer in the terminal than in the air. many told me they had to wait for over two hours to get through, using one word to describe it, chaos. a very, very long queue. the longest queue maybe i've ever seen. two hours. more than two hours waiting. but they brought us water. so what went wrong with the e—gates? the home office, which oversees border force, didn't give details about the nature of the technical fault, but said that a large scale contingency response was activated within six minutes of the gates going down, and that at no point was border security compromised and there was no indication of malicious cyber activity. officials said the e—gates came back online shortly after midnight and apologise to travellers caught up in the disruption. some, like here in stansted, took to sleeping on the floor, all reallyjust wanting to get

to their final destination, whether that be home or hotel. nicky schiller, bbc news, heathrow airport. nicky schiller is at heathrow airport for us. nicky, how are things looking this morning? morning. how are our looking? yes, aood morning. how are our looking? yes, good morning _ morning. how are our looking? yes, good morning good _ morning. how are our looking? ye: good morning good morning. flights are arriving from places like new york, sydney and dubai. i have spoken to officials and they say the e—gates are working and they are not expecting any problems. checking the estimated time to get through arrivals, that is ten minutes, very different from the two hours a lot of people i spoke to last night had to endure. it was a nationwide outage. i spoke to manchester airport and they say that e—gates came back online just before one

o'clock in the morning and the backlog has been cleared. they are not expecting any problems. you saw pictures of people sleeping on the floor at stansted airport. a similar picture with dan. the e—gates are up and running in the backlog has gone. the home office still has not told is what caused the outage. they say they activated their contingency plan within six minutes and at no point was that any compromise to border security. point was that any compromise to bordersecurity. in point was that any compromise to border security. in their statement they also thanked the travellers involved in the chaos for their patients. i spoke to one man here, he was hoping to get back to bournemouth on the last bus last night. unfortunately, because he was delayed inside for over two hours for the bus was gone and he was deciding what to do. i think what a lot of people would have ended up doing was to spend the night in a hotel they did not expect or paying for a cab to get them home in the

early hours of the morning. the good news, it seems the problems have gone after the e—gates came back online just after midnight. gone after the e-gates came back online just after midnight.- online 'ust after midnight. thank ou online just after midnight. thank ou ve online just after midnight. thank you very much — online just after midnight. thank you very much indeed. _ the trial of the former us president donald trump is continuing in new york, and stormy daniels, the adult film star at the centre of the case, has given evidence to the court. mr trump is accused of falsifying business records to conceal a payment to ms daniels in the run—up to the 2016 presidential election. she took to the stand and gave a detailed account of their alleged sexual encounter, which mr trump denies. the us says it paused a shipment of bombs to israel last week, over concerns it was going ahead with an offensive in rafah. aid agencies say that israel's actions in the city have made the delivery of humanitarian aid to civilians virtually impossible. we'rejoined now by our middle east correspondent, yolande knell.

she is alive for us injerusalem. how significant is this confirmation from the united states, do you think? , , .., from the united states, do you think? , , .. , think? very significant. it is the first time we — think? very significant. it is the first time we have _ think? very significant. it is the first time we have had - think? very significant. it is the first time we have had one - think? very significant. it is the first time we have had one of. think? very significant. it is the - first time we have had one of these important shipments of weapons coming from the us to israel has been stopped in the seven months this war has been going on. we do know that president biden has been trying to stop a full israeli assault of rafah. there are hundreds of thousands of people crammed in close to the egyptian border. we understand the shipment that the spores included £2000 bombs, the biggest kind the us has been spending. they could have a devastating effect on such a densely populated place. medics said seven

members of one family were killed in one apartment overnight after it was hit. this is still a limited offensive, the israeli military says. really, all of this taking place in rafah as diplomatic efforts go on to try to bring about a new ceasefire and hostage release deal. we have different mediators meeting with hamas and israeli delegations in cairo today. the us has said really it is optimistic that gaps can be bridged between the different sides. ., ~ can be bridged between the different sides. a, ~' , ., , . john swinney will be officially sworn in as scotland's first minister this morning, after he was nominated by parliament. the snp leader succeeds humza yousaf, who resigned from office yesterday. mr swinney, who will become scotland's seventh first minister, is expected to form his government and confirm cabinet posts in parliament tomorrow. at least 95 people have died during flooding in brazil,

with dozens missing. torrential rain in the rio grande do sul state has left residents without access to clean water for days. the area's governor is warning the situation looks set to get worse as the weather deteriorates in the coming days. an expert in lead poisoning has warned that people living near abandoned metal mines should be tested to rule out any risks to their health. the welsh affairs committee is investigating potential hazards, as there are 1,300 abandoned mines in wales alone. toxins from the old works have leaked out over the years, polluting nearby rivers and affecting animals. prince harry will celebrate the ten—year anniversary of his invictus games with a thanksgiving service at st paul's cathedral later. the duke of sussex has travelled to the uk to commemorate the milestone of the games for injured veterans — but it's been revealed he won't meet with the king during his visit. our royal correspondent daniela relph has more.

what we've created... the duke of sussex, back in the uk and back supporting the invictus games, the event for injured military personnel that prince harry created. what started as a little idea actually stolen from the americans, and made bigger and better. it's not often you can say that! recognising what the invictus games have achieved is the focus of this visit. what the trip to london won't include is a meeting with the king. leaving clarence house back in february, prince harry made a flying visit to london after the king's cancer diagnosis. but this time round, prince harry's team say the king's full programme means there isn't time for father and son to meet. it is a reminder that the family tension of recent years hasn't eased. these visits back to the uk are difficult for both prince harry and the royal family, with relationships still strained. but latertoday, here

at st paul's cathedral, prince harry will be amongst friends and colleagues as he celebrates ten years of the invictus games. prince harry has travelled to london alone, but will be reunited with his wife, meghan, duchess of sussex, later this week when they visit nigeria together, a country likely to host a future invictus games. daniela relph, bbc news, st paul's cathedral. unusual place names, from stinky bay to teletubby hill, are being added to an ordnance survey database of landmarks to help the emergency services find incidents. a search and rescue helicopter was able to locate a missing person in holywell, for example, who was identified as being on the fun ship — a nickname for the tss duke of lancaster. information like this will maintain a database of 1.3 million locations around the uk.

some of them with perhaps more unusual names. i think that was stinky bay! . what is the weather like? ., ~ , , ., ., , stinky bay! . what is the weather like? ., ~,_, ., , like? quite misty and foggy. morning to ou as like? quite misty and foggy. morning to you as well- _ like? quite misty and foggy. morning to you as well. this _ like? quite misty and foggy. morning to you as well. this is _ like? quite misty and foggy. morning to you as well. this is the _ like? quite misty and foggy. morning to you as well. this is the scene - like? quite misty and foggy. morning to you as well. this is the scene a - to you as well. this is the scene a short while ago in abergavenny, its actual name. in parts of south east wales, it is repeated that imagery. very misty, murky. quite a slow commute. the fog patches will cleared to sunny spells. exceptions will be across the north west of scotland where rain will arrive later on in the day. quite misty in places, not particularly cold. temperatures around seven to 11, similar to what they were this time yesterday. lots of cloud as you can

see on the map. the cloud is fairly high paced, reasonably high. turning grey during the day. away from that the cloud breaks up. if few spots around the coast could stay murky. one or two isolated showers are possible. the greatest chance of rain will be into the afternoon across the northern and western isles of the highlands and islands. around 12 to 14 degrees with the rain today. elsewhere 19 to 21. feeling pleasantly warm when the sun is out. the sunshine boosts the pollen levels across england and wales and we could see the sunshine gaining strength. high uv levels across southern and eastern england especially. tonight outbreaks of rain and drizzle across scotland and for a time in northern ireland. elsewhere it should stay dry. mist and fog returning once again. we could see light rain and drizzle into tomorrow but the outlook for

many stays dry and if anything, at the start of the week when getting a bit warmer still. it is the start of the week when getting a bit warmer still.— bit warmer still. it is too warm, too d . bit warmer still. it is too warm, too dry- stop — bit warmer still. it is too warm, too dry. stop the! _ bit warmer still. it is too warm, too dry. stop the! only - bit warmer still. it is too warm, too dry. stop the! only a - bit warmer still. it is too warm, | too dry. stop the! only a matter bit warmer still. it is too warm, i too dry. stop the! only a matter of time. food allergies can have a severe impact on a person's life — but now, a trial is offering some hope, as it helps children to slowly tolerate the ingredients that were dangerous to them. it is funded by the natasha allergy research foundation and was set up by the parents of 15—year old natasha ednan—laperouse, who died from a severe reaction in 2016. our health correspondent alastair fee reports. thomas, it's time for your peanuts. it's medicine time for 11—year—old thomas — a handful of chocolate—coated peanuts. six months ago, they could have killed him. in the beginning when thomas got diagnosed with a peanut allergy,

it dominated our lives. it completely took over our lives. and going out forfood, food preparation at home, everything was a worry. today, thomas can eat small quantities of the very food his family has spent years trying to avoid. it means the world to me that i can eat a peanut and, like, i won't die. and like i know that i can tolerate peanut. thomas is taking part in an allergy trial led by southampton's hospital and university and imperial college, london. it uses the very foods that lead to severe allergic reactions. the early evidence is incredibly promising. i'm delighted. i think this is life—transforming treatment for children. - it changes them... people with food allergies have to live in a certain way- and they have to adopt certain - behaviours to keep themselves safe. and you see people being released. you know, they start off coming in very nervous, very frightenedj about their food allergy. and it's not that they become blase, but theyjust realise that that - things have changed for them.

this is what's called oral immunotherapy. everyday foods are being given to children under medical supervision. the aim is to train the body to cope with the very ingredients that can cause an allergic reaction. in 2016, 15—year—old natasha ednan—laperouse died after eating a pret a manger baguette. it contained sesame, which she was allergic to. set up by her parents, this trial has been funded by the natasha allergy research foundation. natasha would be over the moon that we are actually doing this in her name. it's a form of legacy, if you will, but i think the greatest honour i think any human being can give to anyone else is to help them, help them with their lives. and i think that very much was natasha spirit, and that's what we're doing, helping other families overcome the very things that we were unable to overcome in natasha's life. eight—year—old imani has another common allergy, to dairy. she could have an anaphylactic reaction. she could stop breathing. that's the worst fear. that's the one that's always

niggling at the back of our minds, that anything could happen at any any time. thanks to the trial, imani can now safely tolerate a small amount of milk. i was afraid. now, i'm not that much afraid. now, i can go to parties- without worrying any more. nearly 150 children have taken part in the study across five hospitals in the uk. once completed, its hoped there will be enough evidence for the treatment to be offered on the nhs. this will be less expensive for the nhs, and we are assessing what we call cost—effectiveness so that this procedure, if you like, can be implemented in the nhs and then be widely available to most people who have food allergies. for thomas, who has dreams of playing professional football, it's been life changing for him and the whole family. it's amazing. to see thomas be able to eat peanuts in a safe way,

when previously that would not have happened before the trial, is incredible for all of us, not just for thomas. even small things like going to the theatre, we would avoid the ice cream at half time because it may contain peanut. we don't want to exclude thomas, so we just wouldn't eat it. now we can eat it. children taking part must continue to take small amounts of peanuts or milk to maintain their new tolerance, but for the first time they can lead more normal lives. alastair fee, bbc news. on every single day over the past year, the world's oceans have broken temperature records, thought to be because of climate change. figures from the eu climate service copernicus show last month was globally warmer than any previous april in records dating back to 1940. our climate editorjustin rowlatt is in bangor this morning where scientists are monitoring how

the rising temperatures are impacting the welsh coast. justin, it looks beautiful. what does the science callous? wonderful, isn't it? this — does the science callous? wonderful, isn't it? this is _ does the science callous? wonderful, isn't it? this is magnificent _ does the science callous? wonderful, isn't it? this is magnificent menai - isn't it? this is magnificent menai bridge which spans between north wales and the wonderful island of anglesey, where i am now. we often think of climate change, global warming happening elsewhere in the world, in the tropics, the hot countries and up and down the polar regions. it affects us all, it is changing the population of species in the rocky sea shells of the uk, in the rocky sea shells of the uk, in the rocky sea shells of the uk, in the waters of the uk. we will look at more in a moment. first, let's take a look at the global picture. on much of australia's great barrier reef, you only have to dive below the surface to see the impact our warming

oceans are having. just look at the coral — it bleaches turns white when the water gets too warm and can die as a result. last month, ocean experts announced record world sea temperatures had led to a global mass coral bleaching event, the fourth ever recorded. and it's easy to see why. this grey area shows the range of average global sea temperatures over the last 40 years. now, look at this. the red line shows the sea temperature last year and this is how warm they've been this year. as you can see, the oceans are significantly warmer than in earlier years. should people be concerned? very much so. i mean, this is... these are real signs of the environment moving into areas where we really don't want it to be. and if it carries on in that direction, the consequences will be severe. it isn'tjust tropical seas that are changing. in cardigan bay, off the coast of wales, scientists have been

using traces of dna to track the progress an invasive sea squirt that carpets the sea floor, preventing the growth of native organisms. scientists say it appears to thrive in our warmer waters. it shows just how fragile some of our marine ecosystems can be. you can see changes here on the coast of north wales. you can see changes. there is a group of scientists from the marine biological association, based in plymouth. three generations of scientists have been going all around the coast of the uk, coming back to the same spots and carefully monitoring the species. 17 years of record showing just how populations have changed on our coast. during that time because temperatures, average sea temperatures in the uk, have increased by one celsius.

doesn't sound much but enough to drive changes. i am hoping to be able to show you. i am hoping to find a shell they have been tracking. there is one here. that is one. this is a flat top shelf. it is distinctive. lunch is the wrong shelf. where is it? this has bellybutton and is called an umbilicus. they were very few of them 70 years ago. now, these shells carpet the rocks around here. evidence of how even a small change in temperature care cause disruptions and ecosystems. introducing a new species you could ignore can really cause upheaval, driving out other species, changing the populations. he is still in my little film with the sea squirts off the coast of wales in cardigan bay.

those changes are happening all around the coasts of the uk. another big impact on kelp, the seaweed forest that grows in the oceans were acting as nurseries for many of the fish species we like to celebrate, we like to eat. those are changing and that affects the nurseries, the populations of fish in the sea. big changes indicating just how fragile marine ecosystems are, how sensitive they are to changes and how even small changes in the populations of species can have really, really big effects. you see that on the coast of wales. when you go out in the summer onto the beaches, look around. the populations of the species you will see will be changing. even here in places like north wales we think of as temperate, calm and unchanging. thea;r temperate, calm and unchanging. they are changing- — temperate, calm and unchanging. they

are changing- we _ temperate, calm and unchanging. they are changing. we are very relieved he managed to find a shell in time. we were worried he might be scrabbling around on the beach for hours. keep hold of it. do not drop it. coming up — martin freeman is back out on the beat as a burned—out police officer in the hit bbc show 'the responder�*. we'll be speaking to the programme's creator and one of the stars before 8am. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. this a very good morning. let's get your bbc london news with me, frankie mccamley. cancellations, delays and no services in some area for rail passengers today and tomorrow. it's because the train drivers' union aslef is continuing its industrial action. 16 services including great western, ava nti west coast and chiltern railway are among those affected. other lines might be affected by an overtime ban. so check before you travel.

the general medical council has seen a surge in complaints about doctors subjecting jewish colleagues to anti—semitic abuse. from the start of 2023, the gmc received eight complaints. however, in the four months after the hamas attacks, 60 medical professionals were reported for alleged anti—semitic conduct across the uk. this is quite unusual. it's quite a new thing to be reported. this is the one part of society where we expect everybody to always behave with complete professionalism, and the idea that even in this part of society, anti—semitism has gone up, and jewish doctors are experiencing that kind of prejudice from colleagues, is really shocking and appalling. children given everyday foods to treat milk and peanut allergies are showing dramatic signs of improvement. five hospitals, including london's imperial health care trust have joined a trial,

thanks to funding from the natasha allergy research foundation. natasha ednan—laperouse from fulham died in 2016 after an allergic reaction to sesame in a pret baguette. her parents set up the foundation. natasha would be over the moon that we are actually doing this in her name. it's a form of legacy, if you will, but i think the greatest honour i think any human being can give to anyone else is to help them. help them with their lives. a few issues on the tubes so far. minor delays on the northern and victoria lines. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it is a rather misty and murky start this morning, some low cloud, mist and fog. could be quite stubborn for a time, but eventually burning back to some warm sunshine. now, it could take its time, but once it does, we'll see those temperatures rising. the wind is light, and we're looking at a maximum today in that warm sunshine of around 21 celsius.

into this evening, some sunshine to end the day, then overnight clear spells to start with. likely to see a bit more cloud, mist and fog developing through the night as well. the minimum temperature between seven and 11 celsius. so again, a misty, murky start to thursday. high pressure, though, you can see is still in charge, so it's fairly settled. now, it's likely to burn back a bit quicker tomorrow than it does today, so we'll see that sunshine a little sooner. it is going to feel warm tomorrow too. the maximum temperature is going to get up to 23 celsius. now, this high pressure stays with us through this week and through the weekend, so plenty of fine, dry, sunny in the forecast, and temperatures warmer as we head towards saturday. that's it from me for now. more details on our website about those ongoing trikes and how you will be affected. just seach bbc london train strikes. see you in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent.

is that weather supposedly gets a bit better... it's that time of year again, wedding bells are ringing, but the season has got off to a bit of a soggy start. nina's at a wedding venue in bolton to see how a classic british summer of rain and drizzle can affect the big day. but it looks gorgeous there. good morning, jon and sally. being here at the well—being farm just outside of bolton in lancashire has got me feeling all romantic. remember the big day, guests arriving, you are walking down the aisle and praying that the sun is shining for those photos. we got lucky in october. not everybody has been having that luck this spring, because as you will know if you are planning the big day, it has been the sixth wettest april on record. we think there are about 130,000 couples getting married, and there is a bigger trend now to go for more

casual locations like this, this is a barn that has been converted. what they have done here is put plans in place that they say are fine whatever the weather. come and meet celia, who set this up more than ten years ago, and her army of pals who i think you are going to love. we have ezra, bowie because of his different coloured eyes, and this is winston and vincent. these guys are absolutely beautiful, and whatever the weather, they enhance your wedding experience. absolutely, they don't mind the _ wedding experience. absolutely, they don't mind the weather— wedding experience. absolutely, they don't mind the weather regardless - wedding experience. absolutely, they don't mind the weather regardless of| don't mind the weather regardless of what it is like, snowing, raining, whatever, anything like that. lots of cou - les whatever, anything like that. lots of couples panic _ whatever, anything like that. lots of couples panic if _ whatever, anything like that. lots of couples panic if they wake up on the day and it is cloudy, the rain starts, you can get some extreme weather up here. what would you say to people planning the big day? it is about choosing a venue that is protected for the weather but has contingencies in place. we have a second barn so if it is raining you

can go in there and enjoy your welcome drinks or canapes and everything else while the room has to be turned around from your ceremony to your reception, and we have got lots of umbrellas. 90% of the time of the wedding, you are indoors anyway because enjoying the meal and drinks. and it is also very lucky, if it rains on your wedding date is supposed to be a sign of a strong and healthy marriage. there we no and strong and healthy marriage. there we go and you _ strong and healthy marriage. there we go and you were _ strong and healthy marriage. there we go and you were saying - strong and healthy marriage. there we go and you were saying there are pros and cons of both sides, if you have booked a band of his glorious outside, it is a waste of money, but if it is pelting down, there is a better atmosphere in the barn. you have the pros _ better atmosphere in the barn. wm. have the pros and cons, great weather everyone is outside, all different areas, but if it is

raining you have at least got them in there and you tend to keep the atmosphere. in there and you tend to keep the atmosphere-— in there and you tend to keep the atmoshere. ., ~ ,, , . ., atmosphere. thank you very much, and it is our atmosphere. thank you very much, and it is yourjob — atmosphere. thank you very much, and it is yourjob to — atmosphere. thank you very much, and it is yourjob to handle _ atmosphere. thank you very much, and it is yourjob to handle these _ atmosphere. thank you very much, and it is yourjob to handle these guys. - it is yourjob to handle these guys. do they always behave on the big day? do they always behave on the big da ? ., day? no! what - day? no! - what happens if day? no! _ what happens if people day? no! what ha ens if --eole iet a bit what happens if people get a bit carried away and can petting them if they have had a few beers? thea;r carried away and can petting them if they have had a few beers? they are one they have had a few beers? they are gone then- — they have had a few beers? they are gone them they _ they have had a few beers? they are gone then. they are _ they have had a few beers? they are gone then. they are safe _ they have had a few beers? they are gone then. they are safe up - they have had a few beers? they are gone then. they are safe up in - they have had a few beers? they are gone then. they are safe up in the i gone then. they are safe up in the fields _ gone then. they are safe up in the fields. �* , ., gone then. they are safe up in the fields. �* j ., ., ., gone then. they are safe up in the fields. �* ., ., ., . fields. are they? you are doing a treat 'ob fields. are they? you are doing a great job looking _ fields. are they? you are doing a great job looking after _ fields. are they? you are doing a great job looking after them. - fields. are they? you are doing a. great job looking after them. they greatjob looking after them. they have behaved really well this morning. thank you very much. i nearly bumped into as a on top of wedding venues taking a hit with the bad weather, it is notjust them, it is all hospitality venues. what kind of impact has it has on venues that are already struggling? their weather has _ are already struggling? their weather has been _ are already struggling? their weather has been fairly - are already struggling? their| weather has been fairly brutal are already struggling? their weather has been fairly brutal and it has— weather has been fairly brutal and it has affected _ weather has been fairly brutal and it has affected trading _ weather has been fairly brutal and it has affected trading conditions. it has affected trading conditions for the _ it has affected trading conditions for the leisure _ it has affected trading conditions for the leisure sector— it has affected trading conditions for the leisure sector for- it has affected trading conditions for the leisure sector for the - it has affected trading conditions| for the leisure sector for the past three _ for the leisure sector for the past three years. _ for the leisure sector for the past three years. we _ for the leisure sector for the past three years, we have _ for the leisure sector for the past three years, we have had - for the leisure sector for the past

three years, we have had covid, i for the leisure sector for the past i three years, we have had covid, the energy— three years, we have had covid, the energy crisis. — three years, we have had covid, the energy crisis, interest _ three years, we have had covid, the energy crisis, interest rates - three years, we have had covid, the energy crisis, interest rates going i energy crisis, interest rates going through— energy crisis, interest rates going through the — energy crisis, interest rates going through the roof _ energy crisis, interest rates going through the roof and _ energy crisis, interest rates going through the roof and consumer. through the roof and consumer spending — through the roof and consumer spending depressed, _ through the roof and consumer spending depressed, and - through the roof and consumer. spending depressed, and mother nature _ spending depressed, and mother nature doesn't— spending depressed, and mother nature doesn't play— spending depressed, and mother nature doesn't play ball- spending depressed, and mother nature doesn't play ball and - spending depressed, and motherl nature doesn't play ball and really has a _ nature doesn't play ball and really has a had — nature doesn't play ball and really has a bad impact. _ nature doesn't play ball and really has a bad impact. and _ nature doesn't play ball and really has a bad impact. and these - nature doesn't play ball and really has a bad impact. and these are l has a bad impact. and these are businesses _ has a bad impact. and these are businesses operating _ has a bad impact. and these are businesses operating on - has a bad impact. and these are businesses operating on thin - has a bad impact. and these are - businesses operating on thin margins at the _ businesses operating on thin margins at the lrest— businesses operating on thin margins at the best of— businesses operating on thin margins at the best of times. _ businesses operating on thin margins at the best of times. the _ businesses operating on thin margins at the best of times. the national- at the best of times. the national living _ at the best of times. the national living wage — at the best of times. the national living wage went _ at the best of times. the national living wage went up _ at the best of times. the national living wage went up in— at the best of times. the national living wage went up in april, - at the best of times. the national living wage went up in april, so i living wage went up in april, so these _ living wage went up in april, so these businesses _ living wage went up in april, so these businesses need - living wage went up in april, so . these businesses need everything working _ these businesses need everything working in— these businesses need everything working in their— these businesses need everything working in their favour, _ these businesses need everything working in their favour, and - these businesses need everything working in their favour, and we i working in their favour, and we haven't— working in their favour, and we haven't seen _ working in their favour, and we haven't seen that _ working in their favour, and we haven't seen that this - working in their favour, and we haven't seen that this year. - working in their favour, and we| haven't seen that this year. the weather— haven't seen that this year. the weather is — haven't seen that this year. the weather is picking _ haven't seen that this year. the weather is picking up— haven't seen that this year. the weather is picking up a - haven't seen that this year. the weather is picking up a little - haven't seen that this year. the | weather is picking up a little bit. research— weather is picking up a little bit. research shows _ weather is picking up a little bit. research shows at _ weather is picking up a little bit. research shows at the _ weather is picking up a little bit. research shows at the momentl weather is picking up a little bit. - research shows at the moment people who are booking their weddings, around half of them are looking to make savings because the cost of living is where it is at. inflation is coming down, we hope we are coming out of recession very soon. are there green shoots and hope that things will get easier? the are there green shoots and hope that things will get easier?— things will get easier? the economic headwinds have _ things will get easier? the economic headwinds have been _ things will get easier? the economic headwinds have been challenging . things will get easier? the economicj headwinds have been challenging for a lot of— headwinds have been challenging for a lot of us, _ headwinds have been challenging for a lot of us, particularly— headwinds have been challenging for a lot of us, particularly in— headwinds have been challenging for a lot of us, particularly in these - a lot of us, particularly in these sectors — a lot of us, particularly in these sectors i— a lot of us, particularly in these sectors. i think— a lot of us, particularly in these sectors. i think if— a lot of us, particularly in these sectors. i think if you _ a lot of us, particularly in these sectors. i think if you look- a lot of us, particularly in these sectors. i think if you look at i a lot of us, particularly in thesel sectors. i think if you look at the sectors. ! think if you look at the economic— sectors. i think if you look at the economic data, _ sectors. i think if you look at the economic data, it _ sectors. i think if you look at the economic data, it is _ sectors. i think if you look at the economic data, it is picking - sectors. i think if you look at the economic data, it is picking up i sectors. i think if you look at the economic data, it is picking up a| economic data, it is picking up a little _ economic data, it is picking up a little bit. — economic data, it is picking up a little bit, and — economic data, it is picking up a little bit, and may— economic data, it is picking up a little bit, and may be _ economic data, it is picking up a little bit, and may be green- economic data, it is picking up a . little bit, and may be green shoots. what _ little bit, and may be green shoots. what we _ little bit, and may be green shoots. what we do — little bit, and may be green shoots. what we do need _ little bit, and may be green shoots. what we do need is _ little bit, and may be green shoots. what we do need is the _ little bit, and may be green shoots. what we do need is the sun- little bit, and may be green shoots. what we do need is the sun to - little bit, and may be green shoots. | what we do need is the sun to come out, and _ what we do need is the sun to come out, and when— what we do need is the sun to come out, and when i _ what we do need is the sun to come out, and when i speak—

what we do need is the sun to come out, and when i speak to _ what we do need is the sun to come out, and when i speak to retail- out, and when i speak to retail businesses. _ out, and when i speak to retail businesses, hospitality- out, and when i speak to retail- businesses, hospitality businesses, they are _ businesses, hospitality businesses, they are desperate _ businesses, hospitality businesses, they are desperate for _ businesses, hospitality businesses, they are desperate for a _ businesses, hospitality businesses, they are desperate for a good - businesses, hospitality businesses, i they are desperate for a good summer of trading _ they are desperate for a good summer of tradini . ., they are desperate for a good summer of tradini . . , they are desperate for a good summer of tradin.. . , . ., of trading. there are things we can do to ut of trading. there are things we can do to put in — of trading. there are things we can do to put in place, _ of trading. there are things we can do to put in place, insurance - do to put in place, insurance policies you could take out, and what is interesting is during covid, half of couples used to take insurance, but that is dropped, and maybe it is something to look at in case the weather is really bad and your guests can't arrive, you do get protected. it might feel untraditional for a wedding, protected. it might feel untraditionalfor a wedding, but untraditional for a wedding, but andy untraditionalfor a wedding, but andy does axe throwing at weddings. we tried it earlier but we are going to stay safe this time round. are we seeing more of a trend for people doing the unusual at weddings? definitely. this year we have doubled the bookings of last year. we can operate irrespective of what the weather is, and we want to find a better balance between screen time in green time, so even if the weather is a bit bad, let's get out there, do something fun and get

active and do something unique. it is a great ethos, and we have had a wonderful morning here seeing how you do weddings, not to get upset if things are outside of your control, because if the heavens are going to open, there is nothing you can about it. my top tip is getting married in october, i got married in october, two of my best pals did, and i have never been to an october wedding when the weather is bad. there is loads you can get in place in case things go wrong, and if you are one of the 130,000 or so couples getting married this year, good luck with it all and all the best. all the alternatives to get married in october abroad, nina, all the alternatives to get married in octoberabroad, nina, perhaps? i don't know about abroad weddings, because if your friends and family don't have the budget to go, it rules people out. good point. people watching right now, thinking that is a good idea! unless you want to run away. you don't get llamas at a wedding

abroad, betterstandard don't get llamas at a wedding abroad, better standard of llama here. let's get the sport. bit of an upset, i have to say. borussia dortmund through to the champions league final, meaning killian mbappe misses out. will it bejude bellingham or harry kane, who is going to be the happier englishmen with real madrid and bayern munich going head—to—head later? yes, good morning. there will be no kylian mbappe in the champions league final. as former champions borussia dortmund sprung an upset to reach the showpiece which will be played at wembley in june. already ahead from the first leg, defender matts hummels scored in the second half to make it 2—0 overall. and when paris saint—germain needed their star man most, even mbappe himself couldn't inspire a psg comeback.

dortmund only fifth in the german league at the moment. so dortmund through to the final, where they'll face either bayern munich or the spanish champions real madrid — their last final back in 2013 was underjurgen klopp, at wembley — when they lost to bayern munich. might not want to play them again. so will it be kane or bellingham joining them there? you might remember bellingham trying to put kane off before he scored his penalty in the two all draw between bayern and real madrid in the first leg. it didn't have any affect and that's no surprise to his manager. this i knew we were getting a big personality into the side, goal—scoring and movements, big pressure, he brought everything to the table that we could possibly hope for. what a first season it has

been for harry kane in germany. there were flares, fans and now a final to come.... it was quite the night in bolton last night. there was a pitch invasion as their place in the league one playoff final was confirmed, win that and they'll be promoted to the championship. some great scenes there last night. they might have lost to barnsley last night but they progress on aggregate and will face either oxford or peterborough at wembley. the last time bolton were in a playoff final, sam allardyce was in charge and they beat a preston side managed by david moyes. crawley town look set for a return to league one after beating mk dons 3—0 in the first leg of their playoff. liam kelly scored a brilliant opening goal which sets them up nicely for the return leg in milton keynes on saturday. and luke mcbeth scored an outstanding goal for partick thistle, as their scottish premiership playoff against airdrie finished 2—2. these are sides from the championship aiming for promotion. the second leg is on friday.

perhaps more great goals to come. and he might be a tour de france champion, but geraint thomas looks determined to add another of cycling's grand tours to his collection. he remains second after a tight finish on stage four yesterday of the giro d'italia, still behind the overall leader tadej pogacar. jonathan milan won it, the italian's second stage victory. still a long way to go though in this race, thomas looking in good shape. and it looks sunny there. and to give you a sense of the conditions they're having to deal with on the italian riviera — one rider, biniam girmay is out of the race after two crashes in the space of a few minutes on very slippery hills. you can see when he felljust how far he slides, which gives you an indication of how wet it is and the speeds they are doing. when you come off, it isn't pretty, and that has ruled

him out of the race. that has been dry and greasy, and then the rain falls. the bbc�*s action—packed police drama the responder is back on our screens for a second series. the award—winning show follows martin freeman's character as a burned—out copper dealing with liverpool's drug gangs while working the relentless night shift beat. here's a taste of what we can expect this season. this hey, hey. can you smell gas? if we smell gas, we are obliged to enter this property to protect life and limb, ok? so, can you smell it?

so so tense! brilliant, isn't it? and we'rejoined now by adelayo adedayo, who plays rachel in the series, and tony schumacher, who created the show. good morning to both of you, lovely to have you here. another serious? i can't believe we are getting away with it! it is amazing, isn't it?

it's crazy, and to do it and get such good feedback... we are in a little bubble, and you don't know if we're just confirming to each other if it's any good, and suddenly it goes out and it looks like it might be. ., , . , goes out and it looks like it might be. ., , ., ., be. people agree with us, and we are like, really? — be. people agree with us, and we are like, really? why _ be. people agree with us, and we are like, really? why do _ be. people agree with us, and we are like, really? why do you _ be. people agree with us, and we are like, really? why do you find - be. people agree with us, and we are like, really? why do you find it - like, really? why do you find it hard to believe? _ like, really? why do you find it hard to believe? because - like, really? why do you find it hard to believe? because i'm l like, really? why do you find itj hard to believe? because i'm a like, really? why do you find it. hard to believe? because i'm a bit of an idiot who _ hard to believe? because i'm a bit of an idiot who knows _ hard to believe? because i'm a bit of an idiot who knows nothing - hard to believe? because i'm a bit i of an idiot who knows nothing about making television, and i think i'm just a chancer.— just a chancer. stop! to people _ just a chancer. stop! to people who - just a chancer. stop! to people who don't| just a chancer. stop! - to people who don't know just a chancer. stop! _ to people who don't know your back story, how did you get into this? i always wanted to write as a kid, and was absolutely useless at school, slumped around to doing thousands of jobs, ended up being a copper, had a nervous breakdown and became a writer when i realised i had nothing to lose. that was quick, wasn't it? you casuallyjust say, i had a nervous breakdown. it you casuallyjust say, i had a nervous breakdown.-

you casuallyjust say, i had a nervous breakdown. it was a good old-fashioned _ nervous breakdown. it was a good old-fashioned nervous _ nervous breakdown. it was a good| old-fashioned nervous breakdown, nervous breakdown. it was a good i old-fashioned nervous breakdown, i old—fashioned nervous breakdown, i was living in my carfor a while. it was living in my carfor a while. it was surreal, because we did a screening last night in liverpool, and it was so funny to look up at a couple of hundred people in the theatre, and you suddenly think, i was, you know, thinking very dark thoughts a few years ago, and you are suddenly surrounded by all this success. so really incredibly lucky, but definitely a chancer. titer? success. so really incredibly lucky, but definitely a chancer.— but definitely a chancer. very well deserved, but definitely a chancer. very well deserved. he _ but definitely a chancer. very well deserved, he is _ but definitely a chancer. very well deserved, he is an _ but definitely a chancer. very well deserved, he is an incredible - deserved, he is an incredible writer — deserved, he is an incredible writer. �* ., deserved, he is an incredible writer. . ., , ,, deserved, he is an incredible writer. . , ,, ., deserved, he is an incredible writer. . . , ,, ., ., writer. and what is it like to form those words _ writer. and what is it like to form those words that _ writer. and what is it like to form those words that he _ writer. and what is it like to form those words that he has - writer. and what is it like to form those words that he has written? j writer. and what is it like to form l those words that he has written? it is beautiful, it is a gift. reading the first— is beautiful, it is a gift. reading the first episode, i always say, rachel's— the first episode, i always say, rachel's character wasn't really in the first— rachel's character wasn't really in the first episode of series one, but i the first episode of series one, but i love _ the first episode of series one, but i love the _ the first episode of series one, but i love the episode still. the writing _ i love the episode still. the writing is— i love the episode still. the writing is so human, it isjust gorgeous _ writing is so human, it is 'ust gorgeouafi writing is so human, it is 'ust iioreous. �* ., ., , ., , gorgeous. and we have to be honest with ou. gorgeous. and we have to be honest with you- we — gorgeous. and we have to be honest with you. we run _ gorgeous. and we have to be honest with you. we run a _ gorgeous. and we have to be honest with you. we run a promotional- gorgeous. and we have to be honest| with you. we run a promotional thing in our programme showing clips of what is coming up next. it took a

long time to find a clip with no swearing. long time to find a clip with no swearini. ., , long time to find a clip with no swearini. . , ., , ., long time to find a clip with no swearini. . , ., , . ., swearing. that is not my fault! that is all there is. _ swearing. that is not my fault! that is all there is. the _ swearing. that is not my fault! that is all there is. the swearword - is all there is. the swearword doesn't normally pass my lips. it is all written down! _ all written down! it all written down! it is _ all written down! it is all fine at nine o'clock in the evening, but at eight o'clock in the evening, but at eight o'clock in the morning, not so much. we have been reflecting on the life of bernard hill, whose death was announced on sunday literallyjust announced on sunday literally just hours announced on sunday literallyjust hours before the episode, with cruel but amazing timing, because it was a moment to see him in action and remember how good he was. what was he like to worked with? he remember how good he was. what was he like to worked with?— he like to worked with? he was absolutely _ he like to worked with? he was absolutely incredible. - he like to worked with? he was absolutely incredible. one - he like to worked with? he was absolutely incredible. one of. he like to worked with? he was. absolutely incredible. one of the best things about the show, i am not a luvvie in any shape orform, but there are so many friendships formed on the show, people are close. i wouldn't be a writer if it wasn't for alan bleasdale and bernard hill, they inspired me as a little kid. it was pivotal in my life. and getting

to know bernard and forming that friendship with him, and then having it snatched away before he got to see how good he was, it is just... remind us of the moment when you persuaded bernard to take part. i don't know whether you persuaded him whether he agreed. it don't know whether you persuaded him whether he agreed.— whether he agreed. it was funny in a way because — whether he agreed. it was funny in a way because we _ whether he agreed. it was funny in a way because we all— whether he agreed. it was funny in a way because we all had _ whether he agreed. it was funny in a l way because we all had conversations with him, and he was worried that people forgot him, which is astonishing when you see the impact that he has had over these last couple of weeks. 50 that he has had over these last couple of weeks.— that he has had over these last couple of weeks. oh, couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man. and couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man- and it — couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man. and it was _ couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man. and it was so _ couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man. and it was so beautiful - couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man. and it was so beautiful to - couple of weeks. so much love. oh, man. and it was so beautiful to say, no, bernard, you will be great, when you come on... and then he came on and he had this kind of gravity of presence on the set, and it was just absolutely amazing. bud presence on the set, and it was 'ust absolutely amazingi presence on the set, and it was 'ust absolutely amazing. and for younger actors, the opportunity _ absolutely amazing. and for younger actors, the opportunity of _ absolutely amazing. and for younger actors, the opportunity of working i actors, the opportunity of working with somebody like him in learning and working together must have been amazing. i’m and working together must have been amazini. �* ., , and working together must have been amazini. �* . , , , amazing. i'm really gutted because i didn't have any _ amazing. i'm really gutted because i didn't have any scenes _ amazing. i'm really gutted because i didn't have any scenes with - amazing. i'm really gutted because i didn't have any scenes with him - amazing. i'm really gutted because i

didn't have any scenes with him and | didn't have any scenes with him and i didn't have any scenes with him and i really— didn't have any scenes with him and i really wish — didn't have any scenes with him and i really wish i did. watching him on screen _ i really wish i did. watching him on screen in _ i really wish i did. watching him on screen in the responder i think is really— screen in the responder i think is really incredible.— screen in the responder i think is really incredible. what makes him incredible? _ really incredible. what makes him incredible? he _ really incredible. what makes him incredible? he has _ really incredible. what makes him incredible? he has got _ really incredible. what makes him incredible? he has got like - really incredible. what makes him incredible? he has got like a - incredible? he has got like a iravi , incredible? he has got like a gravity. and _ incredible? he has got like a gravity, and even _ incredible? he has got like a gravity, and even still - incredible? he has got like a gravity, and even still your. incredible? he has got like a i gravity, and even still your eyes can't _ gravity, and even still your eyes can't help— gravity, and even still your eyes can't help but be drawn to him. it isjust— can't help but be drawn to him. it isjust a _ can't help but be drawn to him. it isjust a gravitas can't help but be drawn to him. it is just a gravitas that he can't help but be drawn to him. it isjust a gravitas that he has, and it isjust — isjust a gravitas that he has, and it isjust magic to isjust a gravitas that he has, and it is just magic to watch. isjust a gravitas that he has, and it isjust magic to watch. | isjust a gravitas that he has, and it isjust magic to watch.- it is 'ust magic to watch. i think in it isjust magic to watch. i think in the scenes _ it isjust magic to watch. i think in the scenes between - it isjust magic to watch. i think in the scenes between him - it isjust magic to watch. i think in the scenes between him and| in the scenes between him and martin, there is a real sense of the old prizefighter into the new kid on the block, if you like. there is something magic between those two actors. the something magic between those two actors. ., ,., ,., something magic between those two actors. ., actors. the thing about both martin and with adelayo _ actors. the thing about both martin and with adelayo as _ actors. the thing about both martin and with adelayo as well, _ actors. the thing about both martin and with adelayo as well, often - actors. the thing about both martin j and with adelayo as well, often you don't have the right lines for them. just swear words! while i think, they are going to say this or that in the scene, and then suddenly when you look at them, they can say a lot without any dialogue, so then i will cut it right back, and just think theirface, so then i will cut it right back, and just think their face, their eyes will be amazing. bernard has

got that, he had that. this moment where he points his finger, it is just... where he points his finger, it is 'ust... ., where he points his finger, it is just- - -- we _ where he points his finger, it is just. . .- we interview - where he points his finger, it is i just. . .- we interview writers where he points his finger, it is just... yeah. we interview writers a lot on this — just... yeah. we interview writers a lot on this programme, _ just... yeah. we interview writers a lot on this programme, you - just... yeah. we interview writers a lot on this programme, you kind of thing, it is all about the words, but it is really not about the words, is it? and that is where you bring the magic, i guess.— bring the magic, i guess. yeah, because as _ bring the magic, i guess. yeah, because as an _ bring the magic, i guess. yeah, because as an actor _ bring the magic, i guess. yeah, because as an actor it _ bring the magic, i guess. yeah, because as an actor it is - bring the magic, i guess. yeah, because as an actor it is about i bring the magic, i guess. yeah, i because as an actor it is about the words _ because as an actor it is about the words. when he read the script, you think. _ words. when he read the script, you think. this _ words. when he read the script, you think. this is — words. when he read the script, you think, this is it, this is what i want — think, this is it, this is what i want to— think, this is it, this is what i want to do. _ think, this is it, this is what i want to do, i want this role, but when _ want to do, i want this role, but when you — want to do, i want this role, but when you get on set, you bring a part of— when you get on set, you bring a part of yourself into it, but for me it always — part of yourself into it, but for me it always starts with the script, always — it always starts with the script, alwa s. r . it always starts with the script, alwa s. r , ., ,., it always starts with the script, alwa s. �* ,., always. and tell us about your character- _ always. and tell us about your character. rachel, _ always. and tell us about your character. rachel, so - always. and tell us about your character. rachel, so she - always. and tell us about your character. rachel, so she is i always. and tell us about your - character. rachel, so she is coming out of a really _ character. rachel, so she is coming out of a really rough _ character. rachel, so she is coming out of a really rough relationship, l out of a really rough relationship, an abusive — out of a really rough relationship, an abusive relationship, and she hasn't _ an abusive relationship, and she hasn't found any help, she hasn't asked _ hasn't found any help, she hasn't asked for— hasn't found any help, she hasn't asked for any help, hasn't moved on, so she _ asked for any help, hasn't moved on, so she has— asked for any help, hasn't moved on, so she has physically stepped away from this— so she has physically stepped away from this man but hasn't mentally stepped _ from this man but hasn't mentally stepped away from him, but i think we just— stepped away from him, but i think we just see — stepped away from him, but i think we just see someone suffering with ptsd and _ we just see someone suffering with

ptsd and just kind of acting in a state _ ptsd and just kind of acting in a state of— ptsd and just kind of acting in a state of hypervigilance and how they deal with _ state of hypervigilance and how they deal with that. isn�*t state of hypervigilance and how they deal with that.— deal with that. isn't that interesting, _ deal with that. isn't that interesting, someone i deal with that. isn't that l interesting, someone with deal with that. isn't that - interesting, someone with ptsd acting in a state of hypervigilance, because that is something of a theme this time around, isn't it? it is massively _ this time around, isn't it? it is massively so. _ this time around, isn't it? it is massively so, yes. _ this time around, isn't it? ft 3 massively so, yes. everyone on the show, every character in the show has had a really traumatic time, and it would be crazy not to reflect that, and to try and do it as real as you possibly can, you know? i had as you possibly can, you know? i had a form of ptsd myself, so it is great to get the opportunity with the actors to do that, to show it, and the hypervigilance is a classic example of not writing it. having these guys who could do it. you are painting the colours that they bring, and it isjust a joy, you know? bring, and it is 'ust a 'oy, you know? ., , know? the word 'oy is really interesting, _ know? the word joy is really interesting, because - know? the word joy is really interesting, because we - know? the word joy is really| interesting, because we have know? the word joy is really - interesting, because we have talked about what you've been through personally. it must have been tough as well to bare your soul. i

personally. it must have been tough as well to bare your soul.— as well to bare your soul. i sobbed m heart as well to bare your soul. i sobbed my heart out _ as well to bare your soul. i sobbed my heart out at — as well to bare your soul. i sobbed my heart out at three _ as well to bare your soul. i sobbed my heart out at three o'clock- as well to bare your soul. i sobbed my heart out at three o'clock in . as well to bare your soul. i sobbed| my heart out at three o'clock in the morning, it is part of thejob my heart out at three o'clock in the morning, it is part of the job for me, it is my way of being me. does it help you? — me, it is my way of being me. does it help you? you — me, it is my way of being me. does it help you? you will— me, it is my way of being me. does it help you? you will have - me, it is my way of being me. does it help you? you will have to - me, it is my way of being me. does it help you? you will have to ask i me, it is my way of being me. does| it help you? you will have to ask my wife! no, definitely— it help you? you will have to ask my wife! no, definitely helps _ it help you? you will have to ask my wife! no, definitely helps me. - wife! no, definitely helps me. writing is good for the soul and i would recommend it to anyone, even if nobody else sees it i think it is good for the soul. it is a way of putting yourself out there to discussing things with yourself, you know? ., ., . discussing things with yourself, you know? ., ., , ., ~' discussing things with yourself, you know? ., ., , ., ~ ., ., ., know? how does it work for an actor when ou know? how does it work for an actor when you are _ know? how does it work for an actor when you are playing _ know? how does it work for an actor when you are playing rachel, - know? how does it work for an actor when you are playing rachel, is - know? how does it work for an actor when you are playing rachel, is that| when you are playing rachel, is that good for the sole? does it help? because it is so tense and emotional. it is a lot to carry. l emotional. it is a lot to carry. i think it is. obviously i love it, i enjoy— think it is. obviously i love it, i enjoy it — think it is. obviously i love it, i enjoy it so _ think it is. obviously i love it, i enjoy it so much, and anything that is challenging, anything that feels like there is a conflict there is a really— like there is a conflict there is a really exciting to play, and to do. obviously — really exciting to play, and to do. obviously there are really tense and emotional— obviously there are really tense and emotional scenes that you will do, and sometimes you have to protect yourself _ and sometimes you have to protect

yourself and take care of yourself, so i yourself and take care of yourself, so i always — yourself and take care of yourself, so i always say the respondents that is so much _ so i always say the respondents that is so much fun, so manyjokes flying around _ is so much fun, so manyjokes flying around all— is so much fun, so manyjokes flying around all the time, so in between the takes. — around all the time, so in between the takes, making sure you were just laughing _ the takes, making sure you were just laughing and having a good time, and not taking _ laughing and having a good time, and not taking it on, because that is not taking it on, because that is not the — not taking it on, because that is not the job. not taking it on, because that is rrot the job-— not the job. and helping one another- _ another. exactly. another. exactl. ., ~ another. exactl. ., ,, another. exactl. ., �*, . exactly. thank you both, it's nice to meet you. _ exactly. thank you both, it's nice to meet you, and _ exactly. thank you both, it's nice to meet you, and you _ exactly. thank you both, it's nice to meet you, and you can - exactly. thank you both, it's nice to meet you, and you can watch | to meet you, and you can watch episode two of the responder this sunday night at nine o'clock on bbc one, and you can catch up with the series on bbc iplayer, including serious one if you have missed that, i really recommend that you do go to iplayer and start the beginning. it is coming up to eight o'clock, and matt has got the weather for us. good morning. let mejust take good morning. let me just take you first of all to the scene injersey this morning. blue skies overhead, and more of us will cease guys like that as we go through the coming days, even if it looks a bit misty at the moment. the good news for

many, we have had too much rainfall over the last few months and there isn't a huge amount about now. the rainfall chart for the next four days says that what we will mainly see over the next few days are areas of the north and west of scotland where it has been mainly dry. little to no rain elsewhere, just the odd isolated shower. welcome news and a bit of respite from some of the wettest conditions we have seen of late. high pressure generally dominating, but not strong enough to begin with around the north and the west, so here we will see some weather fronts at times, and it is here where we will see a little rain later. but for many of you this morning, if you are still set to head out, it is quite murky and foggy. head out, it is quite murky and foggy, especially across england and wales, but that will gradually shift and we will start to see sunshine develop more widely. fog to begin with, brightening up across much of england and wales. a fairly high base, reasonably bright, a little

sunshine to the east of scotland with temperatures around 19, but in the northern and western vials, outbreaks of rain and the strengthening wind. where you have the sunshine, it will feel quite warm. as we go into this evening, rein in north—west scotland pushing across other parts and a bit down for a time in northern ireland. but not a huge amount of rain. away from that it should be dry, mist and fog will return in temperature tonight like last night around eight to 11 or 12. thursday, and still some patchy light rain and drizzle in the north—west, but otherwise the rain were clear with longer spells of sunshine developing and that strong sunshine developing and that strong sunshine as we head towards the middle part of may. temperatures up to around 22 or 23, 18 in parts of scotland and after a bitter further overnight rain in scotland to take us into friday, the cloud will break

up us into friday, the cloud will break up and we will see the sunshine as we go through the day and temperatures continue to climb. and into the start of the weekend with high pressure in charge, it should stay fine but they will be outbreaks of rain, potentially showers in the west later, so looking great for the weekend, plenty of sunshine, temperatures peaking around 24 or 25 celsius. jon and sally are back at eight with the impact of social media, but time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.. good morning. let's get your bbc london news. cancellations, delays and no services in some area for rail passengers today and tomorrow. it's because the train drivers' union aslef is continuing its industrial action. 16 services including great western, ava nti west coast and chiltern railway are among those affected. other lines might be affected by an overtime ban.

so check before you travel. the general medical council has seen a surge in complaints about doctors subjecting jewish colleagues to anti—semitic abuse. from the start of 2023, the gmc received eight complaints. however, in the four months after the hamas attacks, 60 medical professionals were reported for alleged anti—semitic conduct across the uk. one of london was my oldest gentle men's clubs, the garrick, is to allow women members for the first time. membership is a closely guarded secret, but 60% voted for the change. a few issues on the tubes so far. minor delays on the northern and victoria lines. and apart suspension on the overground. onto the weather, and the function clear, leaving it dry with plenty of sunshine and a high

of 21 celsius. that's it from me for now, plenty more on our website, and i will see you later this morning. goodbye.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with jon kay and good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. for the next hour we are focusing on the online safety of children. good morning, these are the faces of 11 young people whose deaths were all linked to social media. this morning we will be asking what could have been done to prevent their deaths. and how the internet can be made safer for our young people. we and how the internet can be made saferfor our young people. we are joined in the studio this morning by the parents of those 11 children. they have all written to rishi sunak and keir starmer today urging them to do more to protect young people online. �* ., ., to do more to protect young people online. �* . ., .,, to do more to protect young people online. �* . . ,, online. breanna was accessing content like _ online. breanna was accessing content like that _ online. breanna was accessing content like that and - online. breanna was accessing content like that and it - online. breanna was accessing content like that and it makes | online. breanna was accessing i content like that and it makes me feel a bit ashamed. tbs, content like that and it makes me feel a bit ashamed.— content like that and it makes me feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't — feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent _ feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent her— feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent her from - that i didn't prevent her from looking at it. it’s

that i didn't prevent her from looking at it.— that i didn't prevent her from looking at it. it's so hard, does not 'ust looking at it. it's so hard, does rrot just this — looking at it. it's so hard, does not just this content _ looking at it. it's so hard, does not just this content is - looking at it. it's so hard, does not just this content is there, l looking at it. it's so hard, does i not just this content is there, it's notjust this content is there, it's the platforms are promoting this content. this comes as the media regulator ofcom today sets out plans which it says will force tech companies to make their platform safer. and we will hear from children who use smartphones and access social media. how safe do they feel online? here on the programme this morning, special edition of breakfast, a question raised by parents and grandparents and carers right across the uk, every single day. how safe are our children online. ? you'll recognise some of these young faces. their families all believe that social media played a part in their deaths and this morning they are sending an open letter to both the prime minister and the labour leader

keir starmer urging them to make online safety a priority. their parents have joined online safety a priority. their parents havejoined us here in the studio. during the next hour, they will be putting their questions direct to the government's technology minister and to the head of the regulator ofcom. they will be asking how much difference to the new online safety law will actually make. what more could and should be done? should under 16 is be banned from having smartphones? how can parents trust with their kids are talking to? and what are they actually seeing online? and of course we would love to hear from you about your families, your experiences and your own questions. today, the uk's media regulator ofcom has set out a plan to force tech companies to make their platform safer. the mother of brianna ghey was murdered by two teenagers and the father of molly russell who died by suicide have together been to meet the head of ofcom as our

correspondent angus crawford reports. l correspondent angus crawford re orts. ., correspondent angus crawford reorts. ., ., ~ ., ., , reports. i want to know what they have not reports. i want to know what they have got to _ reports. i want to know what they have got to say — reports. i want to know what they have got to say and _ reports. i want to know what they have got to say and i _ reports. i want to know what they have got to say and i want - reports. i want to know what they have got to say and i want them l reports. i want to know what they | have got to say and i want them to meet people with lived experience. i think it's really important to try and understand what ofcom are doing because from the outside they seem to be doing so little, which is ridiculous— to be doing so little, which is ridiculous and frustrating. brianna and moll , ridiculous and frustrating. brianna and molly, their _ ridiculous and frustrating. brianna and molly, their short _ ridiculous and frustrating. brianna and molly, their short lives - ridiculous and frustrating. brianna | and molly, their short lives sparing their parents onto trying to make their parents onto trying to make the online world a safer place for all children. today, holding the regulator to account. we should then post some pictures, easy to find on social media, of self—harm, suicide and eating disorders. freely available to children. how do seem content like that? i knew that brianna was accessing

content like that and it makes me feel a bit ashamed. tbs, content like that and it makes me feel a bit ashamed.— content like that and it makes me feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't — feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent _ feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent her— feel a bit ashamed. a bit ashamed? that i didn't prevent her from - that i didn't prevent her from looking at it. it’s that i didn't prevent her from looking at it.— that i didn't prevent her from looking at it. it's so hard. and it's not looking at it. it's so hard. and it's rrot just — looking at it. it's so hard. and it's not just that _ looking at it. it's so hard. and it's not just that this - looking at it. it's so hard. and it's not just that this content i looking at it. it's so hard. and| it's not just that this content is it's notjust that this content is there, it's the platforms are promoting this content algorithms are suggesting to young people that they see more of it, so people like brianna and people like molly, and to many more. brianna and people like molly, and to many more-— brianna and people like molly, and to man more. . . �* , , to many more. what we're is ensuring that we crackdown. _ to many more. what we're is ensuring that we crackdown. years _ to many more. what we're is ensuring that we crackdown. years in _ to many more. what we're is ensuring that we crackdown. years in the - that we crackdown. years in the makint , that we crackdown. years in the making. much _ that we crackdown. years in the making, much delayed, - that we crackdown. years in the making, much delayed, the - that we crackdown. years in the i making, much delayed, the online safety act finally passed last year and promised to fix all this. the online safety bill will require platforms to remove and limit the spread of illegal content. now they bring those questions to ofcom, the regulator, to find out what's going on. . ., regulator, to find out what's going on. , . ., ., ~ regulator, to find out what's going on. , . . . ~ i., regulator, to find out what's going on. , . . . ~' i., ., on. esther and ian, thank you for comint on. esther and ian, thank you for coming in- _ on. esther and ian, thank you for coming in. ofcom _ on. esther and ian, thank you for coming in. ofcom has _ on. esther and ian, thank you for coming in. ofcom has new- on. esther and ian, thank you forl coming in. ofcom has new powers under the act _ coming in. ofcom has new powers under the act but _ coming in. ofcom has new powers under the act but it _ coming in. ofcom has new powers under the act but it can't - coming in. ofcom has new powers under the act but it can't start - under the act but it can't start enforcing them yet. today it is launching a consultation on how best

to protect children. but for ian and esther, delays cost lives. it’s esther, delays cost lives. it's about putting _ esther, delays cost lives. it's about putting the onus of responsibility onto the tech firms. they show— responsibility onto the tech firms. they show ofcom's chief executive of the same self—harm and suicide content we found online. that's what you've got to remove.— content we found online. that's what you've got to remove. yeah. so it isn't easily _ you've got to remove. yeah. so it isn't easily available. _ you've got to remove. yeah. so it isn't easily available. exactly, - you've got to remove. yeah. so it isn't easily available. exactly, sol isn't easily available. exactly, so it doesn't normalise, _ isn't easily available. exactly, so it doesn't normalise, this - isn't easily available. exactly, so i it doesn't normalise, this material has become normalised, notjust for adults but for children. honestly, i think we will look back on this, i hope we are in five or ten years' time, and go, how on earth did we let this happen?— time, and go, how on earth did we let this happen? nothing seems to have changed- _ let this happen? nothing seems to have changed. this _ let this happen? nothing seems to have changed. this is _ let this happen? nothing seems to have changed. this is frustrating i have changed. this is frustrating for i think parents like us, but frustrating for all parents. look, i atree, frustrating for all parents. look, i agree. there _ frustrating for all parents. look, i agree. there is — frustrating for all parents. look, i agree, there is so _ frustrating for all parents. look, i agree, there is so much - frustrating for all parents. look, i agree, there is so much that - frustrating for all parents. look, i i agree, there is so much that needs to change here. and all i can say is that at ofcom we are moving forward really, really fast to get these new laws properly set out in detail. and

within a year they will be there, we will be able to enforce against them, and what we are saying to companies is everybody has waited too long for change. i’d companies is everybody has waited too long for change.— too long for change. i'd like to know what _ too long for change. i'd like to know what the _ too long for change. i'd like to know what the reaction - too long for change. i'd like to know what the reaction of - too long for change. i'd like to know what the reaction of the | too long for change. i'd like to - know what the reaction of the social media _ know what the reaction of the social media companies have been. these com anies media companies have been. these companies are _ media companies have been. these companies are in — media companies have been. these companies are in the _ media companies have been. these companies are in the west - media companies have been. these companies are in the west coast. media companies have been. these companies are in the west coast of| companies are in the west coast of america mostly, and they don't really hear and understand quite the impact that they are having on british families and on british kids. what we are asking of them in these proposals and in what we have set out already is a really big change. we are proposing changes that will require age checks, that will require those recommend algorithms to change so they don't feed that material any more and the law is really clear that pornography suicide and self—harm material must not be served to under 18s, so the algorithms will have to change to make that happen. whether or not we should go further and lift the age limit by law, or even ban children from accessing social media altogether under the age of 18, my personal view is that if the

companies don't actually start to implement what we are asking for quite quickly, then i think it will become harder and harder to resist those further measures. i hope you will can hold them to account as parents for this. i really admire what you have done and appreciate the fact you have come and engage with what we are trying to do. i think when you have been through something like what we have been through. _ something like what we have been through. it — something like what we have been through, it could either break you, or it could — through, it could either break you, or it could give you an extra level of mental— or it could give you an extra level of mental resilience, i suppose, and i of mental resilience, ! suppose, and ithink— of mental resilience, i suppose, and i think we _ of mental resilience, i suppose, and i think we have both got that and we have both _ i think we have both got that and we have both got that drive. we i think we have both got that and we have both got that drive.— have both got that drive. we will be on ofcom's — have both got that drive. we will be on ofcom's back _ have both got that drive. we will be on ofcom's back every _ have both got that drive. we will be on ofcom's back every step - have both got that drive. we will be on ofcom's back every step of- have both got that drive. we will be on ofcom's back every step of the l on ofcom's back every step of the way, because at the end of the day there shouldn't be another molly and there shouldn't be another molly and there shouldn't be another molly and there should be another brianna. esther and ianjoin us now, alongside all of the other parents also campaigning for online safety measures.

thank you so much for being here today _ thank you so much for being here today |_ thank you so much for being here toda . ~ ., ., .,, ., thank you so much for being here toda . ~ ., ., ., ., thank you so much for being here toda. ~ ., ., ., ., ., . today. i know that was a tough watch for ou, today. i know that was a tough watch for you. esther- _ today. i know that was a tough watch for you, esther. did _ today. i know that was a tough watch for you, esther. did you _ today. i know that was a tough watch for you, esther. did you feel- today. i know that was a tough watch for you, esther. did you feel you've l for you, esther. did you feel you've gained something from that meeting? could you say exactly how you felt? did you feel listened to? l could you say exactly how you felt? did you feel listened to? i did could you say exactly how you felt? did you feel listened to?— did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to- _ did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to. i _ did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to. i feel— did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to. i feel like _ did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to. i feel like the - did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to. i feel like the team i did you feel listened to? i did feel listened to. i feel like the team atj listened to. i feel like the team at ofcom really did care and they really want to make it work. it is very important for us to work together, like with this consultation, to see if any bits need to be changed or amended. work together. it is very important for the social media companies to work with ofcom as well. this the social media companies to work with ofcom as well.— with ofcom as well. this is a ivotal with ofcom as well. this is a pivotal moment. _ with ofcom as well. this is a pivotal moment. lots - with ofcom as well. this is a pivotal moment. lots of - with ofcom as well. this is a - pivotal moment. lots of parents watching might not realise this is the moment to try to effect change. yes, it is. we are all here today

because we have all been affected by... sorry. it is the first time we have all met and hearing everyone's stories is so emotional. i also think our stories are public but how many children are struggling with mental health? how many children have been affected, self harming, eating disorders, taking their own lives that we do not know about, that has not been identified toward social media? i think it is a pivotal point and we are all standing united to make sure that change happens. standing united to make sure that change happens-— standing united to make sure that change happens. every one of your stories is different, _ change happens. every one of your stories is different, every - change happens. every one of your stories is different, every child - change happens. every one of your stories is different, every child is l stories is different, every child is different, every child's experience of social media and the internet is different. and yet, what strength and solidarity do you take by coming together as one this morning? it is tuite

together as one this morning? it is quite overwhelming. i am just looking — quite overwhelming. i am just looking into the faces of people i have _ looking into the faces of people i have grown to know over the last few years _ have grown to know over the last few years and _ have grown to know over the last few years and months. none of us should be here _ years and months. none of us should be here it _ years and months. none of us should be here it is— years and months. none of us should be here. it is wrong what has happened. the power, by coming together, — happened. the power, by coming together, to tell these stories, as esther— together, to tell these stories, as esther was — together, to tell these stories, as esther was saying, we hope will produce — esther was saying, we hope will produce change, that means that digital— produce change, that means that digital lives of young people in particular will be safe. there has been _ particular will be safe. there has been frustration. the online safety act became law towards the end of last year— act became law towards the end of last year and nothing very much seems — last year and nothing very much seems to— last year and nothing very much seems to have happened because it is part of— seems to have happened because it is part of the _ seems to have happened because it is part of the process. what we want to explore _ part of the process. what we want to explore today is to make sure ofcom as a regulator will do everything it can to _ as a regulator will do everything it can to push — as a regulator will do everything it can to push its powers within this act forwards and the government does not take _ act forwards and the government does not take its— act forwards and the government does not take its foot off the gas because _ not take its foot off the gas because the job is not finished yet. you will— because the job is not finished yet. you will have questions for the minister and for ofcom. we will have

lots of time to do that. let's hear a bit more now about the families of the children at the heart of this story. so, maya, what are you going to do in the future? maya had her life all mapped out. a straight row of as as soon as i get to secondary school, succeed in college and get my qualifications, get a greatjob. but even in paradise, maya's phone was a distraction. she was 13 when she died. her dad found self—harm videos on her mobile. sophie was also 13. i had a look at her ipad and was horrified to find memes, imagery, online material that showed how you could kill yourself. 14—year—old molly had been consumed by these videos. a coroner said harmful online content contributed to her death.

i have no doubt instagram helped kill my daughter. i christopher was 15. they sent christopher a photo with knives. she was saying to him, "you've got to try it". brianna's murderers had watched videos of torture and murder on the dark web. they were 15. ollie died when he was 13. they're seeing things they shouldn't be seeing at those ages. _ our children are dying. amanda and stuart's son was stabbed by boys who'd shared violent videos online, who'd planned his murder in chat groups. they're just thrust into a world that's too much for them too young. too violent, too graphic. # happy birthday. ..#

isaac died when he was 13, jules when he was 14, archie atjust12. they were all found unconscious and unresponsive by their mothers, who've been fighting for access to their children's social media accounts. if i knew about these online challenges, then i would have had the conversation with archie. something needs to be done. maya took her own life after being bullied in school and online. it's unbearable. it is unbearable. sorry. 15—year—old breck was groomed and murdered by an online gamer, who reported the crime before posting images of his victim's body in a chat group. breck could have been saved if only we had been more aware. - 11 young lives cut far too short. today, their families speak out in the hope they can protect others.

and here they are, on the bbc breakfast sofa together this morning. thank you all so much for being here. i know what a tough watch that was for everyone at home. even tougher of course for all of you. interesting, isn't it? we see those children on their social media profiles can seemingly happy, laughing and enjoying life. the simple facts are devastating when you listen to them. we'rejoined now by melanie dawes, the chief executive of the regulator, ofcom. melanie, ina melanie, in a moment, we are going to open the floor and not ask questions. these payments will ask questions. these payments will ask questions about how things will change. let's start by saying, what is different today to make children safer compared to when all of these

children died? flan safer compared to when all of these children died?— children died? can i say thank you to the bbc— children died? can i say thank you to the bbcfor_ children died? can i say thank you to the bbc for devoting _ children died? can i say thank you to the bbc for devoting so - children died? can i say thank you to the bbc for devoting so much i children died? can i say thank you . to the bbc for devoting so much time this morning to such an incredibly important topic? thank you and i'm admiring the parents. ifeel the emotion in the studio. it is extraordinary. what we are announcing today is a big step change in what we want to see from tech companies. at the moment, teenagers, younger children up and down the country can experience harmful content on social media feeds again and again. this has become normalised. what has to change. we are demanding proper age checks and that the social media feeds, those algorithms, are radically changed so suicide and self—harm material are not available for those under 18 in laws set out by parliament.—

by parliament. you talked about breck in that _ by parliament. you talked about breck in that short _ by parliament. you talked about breck in that short film. - by parliament. you talked about breck in that short film. so - by parliament. you talked about breck in that short film. so i - by parliament. you talked about breck in that short film. so i am j by parliament. you talked about l breck in that short film. so i am it is hard to hear everyone's story today. it is hard—hitting because we already have our own children's stories memorised. for already have our own children's stories memorised.— already have our own children's stories memorised. for me, we know that the platform _ stories memorised. for me, we know that the platform is _ stories memorised. for me, we know that the platform is the _ stories memorised. for me, we know that the platform is the children - that the platform is the children used _ that the platform is the children used and — that the platform is the children used and spent so much time on, they put profits— used and spent so much time on, they put profits over safety. we know this _ put profits over safety. we know this what — put profits over safety. we know this. what the insurances can we have _ this. what the insurances can we have that — this. what the insurances can we have that when parents or children report— have that when parents or children report concerns, something they are worried _ report concerns, something they are worried about, what reassurances can we get _ worried about, what reassurances can we get they— worried about, what reassurances can we get they will be listened to and the platforms will react, they will look into — the platforms will react, they will look into the issue and deal with the problem properly? you look into the issue and deal with the problem properly?— look into the issue and deal with the problem properly? you are right. at the moment. _ the problem properly? you are right. at the moment, the _ the problem properly? you are right. at the moment, the commercial- at the moment, the commercial incentive is everything and how the companies are run. that is why we need regulations and the laws and why we need a regulator like ofcom

to enforce them. the first thing to say, we are here to make sure we understand what is going on and we address it and hold companies to account forfixing it. when it comes to an individual things people might see and experience as they might have, we are demanding a big improvement in complaints and how they are handled. one thing the teenagers, they want to be able to report much more easily and get an answer when they have said something has gone wrong. it is a big part of our proposals. ibe has gone wrong. it is a big part of our proposals-— has gone wrong. it is a big part of our proposals. be as strong as you can towards — our proposals. be as strong as you can towards these _ our proposals. be as strong as you can towards these tech _ our proposals. be as strong as you can towards these tech giants. - our proposals. be as strong as you i can towards these tech giants. when they do— can towards these tech giants. when they do wrong, that they be fined. you can— they do wrong, that they be fined. you can use — they do wrong, that they be fined. you can use those fines to educate and protect— you can use those fines to educate and protect those children. we want to make _ and protect those children. we want to make change for children now. we have a to make change for children now. have a whole to make change for children now. - have a whole set of tools as a regulator, we can demand regulation and levy fines. we can use our powers to publish information so the

public knows which companies are implementing these things and which are not. so implementing these things and which are not. ,., , implementing these things and which are not. , .., implementing these things and which are not. , .. . ~ implementing these things and which are not. , .«i , are not. so parents can make better decisions. are not. so parents can make better decisions- we _ are not. so parents can make better decisions. we do _ are not. so parents can make better decisions. we do not _ are not. so parents can make better decisions. we do not want _ are not. so parents can make better decisions. we do not want anyone i are not. so parents can make better| decisions. we do not want anyone to esca -e decisions. we do not want anyone to escape from — decisions. we do not want anyone to escape from the _ decisions. we do not want anyone to escape from the truth. _ decisions. we do not want anyone to escape from the truth. there - decisions. we do not want anyone to escape from the truth. there are - escape from the truth. there are serious issues to address. serious proposals we are setting out and to give parents and children much better choices about where they spend their time.— better choices about where they spend their time. thank you. shall we turn to with? _ spend their time. thank you. shall we turn to with? it _ spend their time. thank you. shall we turn to with? it was _ spend their time. thank you. shall we turn to with? it was ten - spend their time. thank you. shall we turn to with? it was ten years i we turn to with? it was ten years ago that sophie took her own life regarding what she has seen on social media. what is your question? i have been doing this for a long time and i am a natural cynic anyway. i want to know how ofcom will measure and manage their success? how will it happen and what will it look like? that links into keeping up—to—date with feature technology as well, how will you keep on top of that as well? my

concern, and it comes from that experience of campaigning so long for change, how will you measure and know you have done a good job? thank know you have done a good 'ob? thank ou. i am know you have done a good 'ob? thank you. i am having — know you have done a good 'ob? thank you. i am having to h know you have done a good 'ob? thank you. i am having to turn _ know you have done a good job? thank you. i am having to turn round - know you have done a good job? thank you. i am having to turn round to talk to _ you. i am having to turn round to talk to you — you. i am having to turn round to talk to you-— you. i am having to turn round to talk to you._ one | talk to you. that is all right. one nroblem talk to you. that is all right. one problem at _ talk to you. that is all right. one problem at the _ talk to you. that is all right. one problem at the moment - talk to you. that is all right. one problem at the moment when i talk to you. that is all right. one . problem at the moment when social media _ problem at the moment when social media companies do not measure what it is like _ media companies do not measure what it is like to _ media companies do not measure what it is like to be a teenager or young person— it is like to be a teenager or young person online. we are going to have to force _ person online. we are going to have to force through new ways of getting a handle _ to force through new ways of getting a handle on this. we will do that. how— a handle on this. we will do that. how will— a handle on this. we will do that. how will you do that? sign up you are 13, you go online and what happens to your social media feed? do you still see the content you get today— do you still see the content you get today question idcs suicide, pornography and self— harm today question idcs suicide, pornography and self—harm material? do you _ pornography and self—harm material? do you see _ pornography and self—harm material? do you see hateful content and bullying? that needs to be less of a problem _ bullying? that needs to be less of a problem than today. we can test that in lots _ problem than today. we can test that in lots of _ problem than today. we can test that in lots of ways. we will be

demanding information and publishing reports _ demanding information and publishing reports i_ demanding information and publishing reports. i will be honest, demanding information and publishing reports. iwill be honest, it demanding information and publishing reports. i will be honest, it is quite — reports. i will be honest, it is quite an— reports. i will be honest, it is quite an uphill battle to get this stuff in — quite an uphill battle to get this stuff in place. we will be doing a lot of— stuff in place. we will be doing a lot of work— stuff in place. we will be doing a lot of work with teenagers. we think they are _ lot of work with teenagers. we think they are some of the best people to tell us— they are some of the best people to tell us what is going on. whenever i speak— tell us what is going on. whenever i speak to _ tell us what is going on. whenever i speak to young people, they are so clear about — speak to young people, they are so clear about what they want to change and what _ clear about what they want to change and what design changes to the platforms would help. not being included — platforms would help. not being included in group chats they have not asked — included in group chats they have not asked to be included in. it is a really— not asked to be included in. it is a really important part of what we have _ really important part of what we have to — really important part of what we have to do to measure the success. i think have to do to measure the success. think it is have to do to measure the success. i think it is really interesting about the ten years since she last lost sophie, the internet has changed dramatically in that decade and it will no doubt change in ways we cannot predict in the next decade. how can you convince these mums and dads watching? l how can you convince these mums and dads watching?— dads watching? i think things have not worse dads watching? i think things have got worse in _ dads watching? i think things have got worse in the _ dads watching? i think things have got worse in the last _ dads watching? i think things have got worse in the last ten _ dads watching? i think things have got worse in the last ten years. . dads watching? i think things have | got worse in the last ten years. the algorithms— got worse in the last ten years. the algorithms have become much more

mainstream in social media. apps well— mainstream in social media. apps we'll use — mainstream in social media. apps we'll use it— mainstream in social media. apps we'll use. it is such an important question. — we'll use. it is such an important question, there will be change. the new forms — question, there will be change. the new forms of ai make the apps ever more _ new forms of ai make the apps ever more sophisticated. the good thing about— more sophisticated. the good thing about the _ more sophisticated. the good thing about the law is it is not restricted to one form of service or one form _ restricted to one form of service or one form of— restricted to one form of service or one form of technology. for example, if suicide _ one form of technology. for example, if suicide and — one form of technology. for example, if suicide and self—harm material is created _ if suicide and self—harm material is created by— if suicide and self—harm material is created by a — if suicide and self—harm material is created by a human or ai, it is still— created by a human or ai, it is still a — created by a human or ai, it is still a problem and should not be shown— still a problem and should not be shown to — still a problem and should not be shown to young people. we are very aware _ shown to young people. we are very aware we _ shown to young people. we are very aware we are going to be managing a very changing environment here. let's _ very changing environment here. let's go — very changing environment here. let's go to— very changing environment here. let's go to lisa. i believe you have a question. i let's go to lisa. i believe you have a question-— a question. i had a couple of questions- — a question. i had a couple of questions. last _ a question. i had a couple of questions. last year, - a question. i had a couple of questions. last year, i- a question. i had a couple ofj questions. last year, i made a question. i had a couple of l questions. last year, i made a complaint for a video that i had on tick—tock and it came back no violation. i sent it to ofcom and they said they could not deal with

individual cases. that is a big blow to a parent because you want to protect your child. safeguarding. you have nurtured your child throughout the whole of their lives and i want to find out how quickly are these complaint procedures going to happen for a single complaint? as opposed to how you class a collective complaint? you opposed to how you class a collective complaint? you are right. ofcom will not _ collective complaint? you are right. ofcom will not have _ collective complaint? you are right. ofcom will not have the _ collective complaint? you are right. ofcom will not have the power - collective complaint? you are right. ofcom will not have the power to i ofcom will not have the power to look at _ ofcom will not have the power to look at individual complaints about individual— look at individual complaints about individual bits of content. it is difficult — individual bits of content. it is difficult to remap —— it is different_ difficult to remap —— it is different from tv complaints. the reason _ different from tv complaints. the reason is — different from tv complaints. the reason is scale. while we have been talking _ reason is scale. while we have been talking to _ reason is scale. while we have been talking to my have moderated 50, 100,000 — talking to my have moderated 50, 100,000 individual bits of content in their— 100,000 individual bits of content in their system. the laws will focus on them _ in their system. the laws will focus on them having systems and processes in place _ on them having systems and processes in place but _ on them having systems and processes in place but also improving complaints for members of the public make _ complaints for members of the public make uses— complaints for members of the public make uses of the service. that would

be a big _ make uses of the service. that would be a big thing ofcom is holding them to account _ be a big thing ofcom is holding them to account on. the be a big thing ofcom is holding them to account on-— to account on. the video i complained _ to account on. the video i complained about - to account on. the video i complained about was - to account on. the video i complained about was a l to account on. the video i - complained about was a blatant challenge. if you look on tiktok�*s terms and conditions, it says no dangerous content, no challenging. it is a very concerning video. to explain to people watching this. you believe isaac make your son, had been watching a challenge, as they are called, on social media, before taking his own life.— taking his own life. they said he had viewed _ taking his own life. they said he had viewed a — taking his own life. they said he had viewed a tiktok _ taking his own life. they said he had viewed a tiktok challenge. | taking his own life. they said he l had viewed a tiktok challenge. -- had viewed a tiktok challenge. —— had viewed a tiktok challenge. —— had not viewed. it came from somewhere. that is what is frustrating. this particular video is still up on tiktok. as a parent you want to keep your child say. if you want to keep your child say. if you cannot deal with an individual case and tiktok is not taking it seriously, where do you go? what do

you do? seriously, where do you go? what do ou do? ., , . . , ., you do? dangerous challenges need to be significantly — you do? dangerous challenges need to be significantly filtered _ you do? dangerous challenges need to be significantly filtered down _ you do? dangerous challenges need to be significantly filtered down to - be significantly filtered down to people — be significantly filtered down to people under 18. when you have eight people under18. when you have eight checks— people under18. when you have eight checks in— people under 18. when you have eight checks in place when algorithms have .ot checks in place when algorithms have got to— checks in place when algorithms have got to be _ checks in place when algorithms have got to be radically changed. this is one way— got to be radically changed. this is one way they need to change. that is the first— one way they need to change. that is the first thing, take action. platforms need to take action. complaints procedures need to improve — complaints procedures need to improve. i am complaints procedures need to improve. iam sorry complaints procedures need to improve. i am sorry not to say that ofcom _ improve. i am sorry not to say that ofcom will— improve. i am sorry not to say that ofcom will take individual complaints but that would just be a volume _ complaints but that would just be a volume we — complaints but that would just be a volume we would never be able to commit _ volume we would never be able to commit to — volume we would never be able to commit to manage because it is so vast _ commit to manage because it is so vast we _ commit to manage because it is so vast. we will do everything we can to hold _ vast. we will do everything we can to hold the — vast. we will do everything we can to hold the companies to account for improving _ to hold the companies to account for improving their complaints handling. otherwise, _ improving their complaints handling. otherwise, they do not know what is going _ otherwise, they do not know what is going on _ otherwise, they do not know what is going on it — otherwise, they do not know what is going on. it is a really important way for— going on. it is a really important way for them to be held to account by the _ way for them to be held to account by the public for what is going on. i by the public for what is going on. i find _ by the public for what is going on. i find it— by the public for what is going on. i find it frustrating. if it is an individual complaint, how will it have the knock—on effect for the

social media platforms? how do you police that? i do not mean to give you a hard time but parents are completely blocked. they do not know where else to go. you need to play when more resources, blacking up certain things. that is what tiktok is about. they are not picking up words like hold and breath. they are getting through and are getting more and more sinister. if a getting through and are getting more and more sinister.— and more sinister. if a parent has content they _ and more sinister. if a parent has content they are _ and more sinister. if a parent has content they are concerned - and more sinister. if a parent has| content they are concerned about, and more sinister. if a parent has - content they are concerned about, or young _ content they are concerned about, or young person, they can put the information together. do send it to me now _ information together. do send it to me now i— information together. do send it to me now. ithink information together. do send it to me now. i think we information together. do send it to me now. ithink we may information together. do send it to me now. i think we may have seen it already _ me now. i think we may have seen it already do — me now. i think we may have seen it already. do send it to us now. what we cannot _ already. do send it to us now. what we cannot do — already. do send it to us now. what we cannot do is deal with that individual— we cannot do is deal with that individual issue with the company. we cannot— individual issue with the company. we cannot take you through their complaints processes. we will look for patterns. on the ofcom website

you can _ for patterns. on the ofcom website you can find out how to get in touch — you can find out how to get in touch do _ you can find out how to get in touch. do tell us what is going on. we need _ touch. do tell us what is going on. we need to— touch. do tell us what is going on. we need to know. i think it would be a slightly— we need to know. i think it would be a slightly different role and very complimentary. | a slightly different role and very complimentary.— a slightly different role and very complimentary. i know you have a auestion complimentary. i know you have a question for _ complimentary. i know you have a question for melanie _ complimentary. i know you have a question for melanie now. - complimentary. i know you have a question for melanie now. archie l question for melanie now. archie died after a tiktok challenge was something very similar to what we were talking about. now is your moment to ask what more can be done. i was unaware that archie was on tiktok. he was 12. how will you impose and verify that age? it doesn't really take a genius to work out a date of birth that gets you one of these social media platforms. it is too easily accessible. you are quite _ it is too easily accessible. you are quite right — it is too easily accessible. you are quite right. nearly all the social media _ quite right. nearly all the social media platforms have a minimum age

of 15 _ media platforms have a minimum age of 15 they— media platforms have a minimum age of 13. they are not doing anything at the _ of 13. they are not doing anything at the moment to enforce that. at the moment but they are relying only on asking _ the moment but they are relying only on asking people that age. that is no form _ on asking people that age. that is no form of— on asking people that age. that is no form of assurance at all. a third of teenagers online are using an adult _ of teenagers online are using an adult aqe — of teenagers online are using an adult age. that has to change. it is one thing _ adult age. that has to change. it is one thing we are demanding today, that the _ one thing we are demanding today, that the checks are therefore age 18. that the checks are therefore age 18~ when — that the checks are therefore age 18. when it comes to the age of 13 on social— 18. when it comes to the age of 13 on social media, if they had that a-e on social media, if they had that age in _ on social media, if they had that age in their— on social media, if they had that age in theirterms on social media, if they had that age in their terms and conditions, we will— age in their terms and conditions, we will be — age in their terms and conditions, we will be holding them to account for it _ we will be holding them to account for it. there are lots of things they— for it. there are lots of things they can _ for it. there are lots of things they can do to not let younger children— they can do to not let younger children on. 40% of five to seven—year—olds currently out on social— seven—year—olds currently out on social media in one way or another. i social media in one way or another. i would _ social media in one way or another. i would say— social media in one way or another. i would say to parents listening today, — i would say to parents listening today, it — i would say to parents listening today, it is a risky environment for children— today, it is a risky environment for children of— today, it is a risky environment for children of primary school age, let alone _ children of primary school age, let alone those very young children. please _ alone those very young children. please be — alone those very young children. please be careful if you think your children— please be careful if you think your children are exposed to social media at that— children are exposed to social media at that age —

children are exposed to social media at that age. 335 children are exposed to social media atthataae. a. at that age. as a parent, you can onl do at that age. as a parent, you can only do so — at that age. as a parent, you can only do so much. _ at that age. as a parent, you can only do so much. i _ at that age. as a parent, you can only do so much. i have - at that age. as a parent, you can only do so much. i have spoken l at that age. as a parent, you can. only do so much. i have spoken to everyone here. we all do our utmost best to safeguard our children. like i have said before, when your child has access to a mobile phone, you are bringing a billion strangers into your home. you need to do more and you need to stand by what you say you will do. how many children have got to die for you to actually come down harsher?— have got to die for you to actually come down harsher? look, we are 'ust startin: come down harsher? look, we are 'ust starting theirs. — come down harsher? look, we are 'ust starting theirs. the fl come down harsher? look, we are 'ust starting theirs. the laws i come down harsher? look, we are 'ust starting theirs. the laws came in h come down harsher? look, we arejust starting theirs. the laws came in at. starting theirs. the laws came in at the end _ starting theirs. the laws came in at the end of— starting theirs. the laws came in at the end of october. we take this very seriously. we are so aware at ofcom _ very seriously. we are so aware at ofcom that — very seriously. we are so aware at ofcom that parents and young people and everyone here today is kind of counting _ and everyone here today is kind of counting on — and everyone here today is kind of counting on us to achieve change here~ _ counting on us to achieve change here we — counting on us to achieve change here. we take that very, very seriously _ here. we take that very, very seriously i_ here. we take that very, very seriously. i hope you will hold us to account — seriously. i hope you will hold us to account in the months and years

ahead _ to account in the months and years ahead i_ to account in the months and years ahead i am — to account in the months and years ahead. i am expecting that. what i said to _ ahead. i am expecting that. what i said to esther and ian last week. we want you _ said to esther and ian last week. we want you to — said to esther and ian last week. we want you to continue to be very clear— want you to continue to be very clear about _ want you to continue to be very clear about what needs to change. i hope _ clear about what needs to change. i hope you _ clear about what needs to change. i hope you willjoin us in holding the companies — hope you willjoin us in holding the companies to account, which is where we really— companies to account, which is where we really need to see improvements made on really quite a dramatic scale~ _ one of the interviews that lisa and myself did on monday, i can't remember the exact figure, but you had spoken to a lot of children with regards to the internet and what they feel and what they needs improving, and the whole amount of parents. but how many bereaved parents. but how many bereaved parents did you ask? because i know myself, my view of the internet, if you had asked me two years ago, would have been very different and very naive to how i see the internet now. it's a lot more sinister than i thought. the thing i think i have always highlighted is strangers and paedophiles. i didn't know that the

internet was full of this sinister stuff. i was 100% naive. internet was full of this sinister stuff. iwas100% naive. i definitely hold my hands up there. i definitely hold my hands up there. i agree with you. parents can only ever— agree with you. parents can only ever do— agree with you. parents can only ever do so— agree with you. parents can only ever do so much, and it's not right to ask— ever do so much, and it's not right to ask parents of young people to be taking _ to ask parents of young people to be taking rough responsibility for this — taking rough responsibility for this the _ taking rough responsibility for this. the responsibility now needs to be _ this. the responsibility now needs to be on— this. the responsibility now needs to be on the platforms. we have spoken— to be on the platforms. we have spoken to — to be on the platforms. we have spoken to a lot of young people and parents _ spoken to a lot of young people and parents about our proposals, and what _ parents about our proposals, and what they've said to us is very much behind _ what they've said to us is very much behind what — what they've said to us is very much behind what we are setting out today, — behind what we are setting out today, and we've spoken to a number of people _ today, and we've spoken to a number of people here already as well, but i absolutely commit to you today that we — i absolutely commit to you today that we will keep that engagement going. _ that we will keep that engagement going, we will extend it. we want to hear from _ going, we will extend it. we want to hear from all of you. there is a meeting — hear from all of you. there is a meeting next week to take you through— meeting next week to take you through the detail of what we are proposing today, and that isjust the beginning. find proposing today, and that is 'ust the beginningi the beginning. and holly, at hatchie's— the beginning. and holly, at hatchie's inquest, _ the beginning. and holly, at hatchie's inquest, they - the beginning. and holly, at hatchie's inquest, they said| the beginning. and holly, at. hatchie's inquest, they said he the beginning. and holly, at- hatchie's inquest, they said he died as a result of a prank gone wrong, but you believe that he had seen something on tiktok? yes.

but you believe that he had seen something on tiktok?— but you believe that he had seen something on tiktok? yes, he was very vulnerable, _ something on tiktok? yes, he was very vulnerable, he _ something on tiktok? yes, he was very vulnerable, he is _ something on tiktok? yes, he was very vulnerable, he is an _ something on tiktok? yes, he was very vulnerable, he is an sen - something on tiktok? yes, he was| very vulnerable, he is an sen child. the inquest was rushed through very quickly, and i don't doubt it is a prank gone wrong, but i do believe he has been influenced by something, not so much the climbing but the whole ligature thing. where has he seen that? ,, whole ligature thing. where has he seen that? ., ~ . ' seen that? you say archie was 12, and there are _ seen that? you say archie was 12, and there are parents _ seen that? you say archie was 12, and there are parents this - seen that? you say archie was 12, i and there are parents this morning, may be the children of primary school age, just going to secondary school. they shouldn't be social media, but they are getting social media. people will be interesting to know, you talk about the cheques the that companies can put in place, may be to show their passports, identification to show their age. how confident are you that that is watertight, that kids won't cheat or borrow a passport, that that keeps them safe? ~ .

borrow a passport, that that keeps them safe?— borrow a passport, that that keeps them safe? ~ . . , them safe? what we are requiring is ate them safe? what we are requiring is age cheques — them safe? what we are requiring is age cheques that — them safe? what we are requiring is age cheques that are _ them safe? what we are requiring is age cheques that are highly - age cheques that are highly effective. that phrase highly effective. that phrase highly effective is in law.— effective. that phrase highly effective is in law. what does it mean? we _ effective is in law. what does it mean? we think— effective is in law. what does it mean? we think it _ effective is in law. what does it mean? we think it means - effective is in law. what does it mean? we think it means a - effective is in law. what does it | mean? we think it means a very effective is in law. what does it - mean? we think it means a very high detree of mean? we think it means a very high degree of certainty _ mean? we think it means a very high degree of certainty that _ mean? we think it means a very high degree of certainty that under - mean? we think it means a very high degree of certainty that under 18s - degree of certainty that under 18s can't _ degree of certainty that under 18s can't be _ degree of certainty that under 18s can't be shown on adult only experience, and we think there are technologies now that have been tested _ technologies now that have been tested and we have got them already introduced on adult sites that we regulate — introduced on adult sites that we regulate where facial scanning when you go— regulate where facial scanning when you go on. _ regulate where facial scanning when you go on, quickly says yes or no, are you _ you go on, quickly says yes or no, are you under— you go on, quickly says yes or no, are you under or over the age of 18. you don't _ are you under or over the age of 18. you don't need to show any id provided — you don't need to show any id provided you are clearly over the a-e provided you are clearly over the age of— provided you are clearly over the age of 18, — provided you are clearly over the age of 18, you can enjoy that adult lnternet _ age of 18, you can enjoy that adult internet experience. and if you look a bit younger, they might ask for id to back— a bit younger, they might ask for id to back that— a bit younger, they might ask for id to back that up. but id doesn't have to back that up. but id doesn't have to be _ to back that up. but id doesn't have to be the _ to back that up. but id doesn't have to be the answer. it can be very cumbersome. more and more technologies are coming in to allow for example a digital id, and no data _ for example a digital id, and no data has— for example a digital id, and no data has to be shared or stored, it doesn't _ data has to be shared or stored, it doesn't have to intrude upon privacy, _ doesn't have to intrude upon privacy, so we think the solutions are there — privacy, so we think the solutions are there and we are asking the

industry— are there and we are asking the industry to— are there and we are asking the industry to start to implement them. they are _ industry to start to implement them. they are going to need to do the innovation. _ they are going to need to do the innovation, they are the tech experts — innovation, they are the tech experts and have all the resources. we will _ experts and have all the resources. we will hold them to account putting on systems that are effective. but can i make _ on systems that are effective. but can i make a _ on systems that are effective. elf can i make a small point about age assurance. 13 and 1a are still a child, 15 is still a child, but many tech companies assume that if you are 15, that's ok. there is almost this disconnect between what a child really isn't what a tech company assumes it is, and i think that for assumes it is, and i think that for a tech company to assume that it is ok for children to be on facebook over the age of 13 or iii ok for children to be on facebook over the age of 13 or 1a is incorrect, because that clearly isn't the case. how is ofcom managing that? it isn't the case. how is ofcom managing that?— isn't the case. how is ofcom managing that? it clearly isn't ok for 13 to 17-year-olds _ managing that? it clearly isn't ok for 13 to 17-year-olds to - managing that? it clearly isn't ok for 13 to 17-year-olds to be - managing that? it clearly isn't ok for 13 to 17-year-olds to be on . for 13 to 17—year—olds to be on social— for 13 to 17—year—olds to be on social media today given that it is not a _ social media today given that it is not a safe — social media today given that it is not a safe environment, so that is what _ not a safe environment, so that is what we _ not a safe environment, so that is what we are — not a safe environment, so that is what we are saying today, we need the algorithms to change, we need a much _ the algorithms to change, we need a much better system of complaints, we

need young _ much better system of complaints, we need young people to have more control— need young people to have more control over who can contact them, over what _ control over who can contact them, over what groups they are added to, so that— over what groups they are added to, so that that — over what groups they are added to, so that that environment is then safe _ so that that environment is then safe and — so that that environment is then safe. and if there are under 13 is in those — safe. and if there are under 13 is in those companies are saying, this is 0k— in those companies are saying, this is ok for— in those companies are saying, this is ok for 13 — in those companies are saying, this is ok for 13 plus but not under 13, they need — is ok for 13 plus but not under 13, they need to enforce that lower age limit and _ they need to enforce that lower age limit and we will hold them to account — limit and we will hold them to account. ~ . ., ~ limit and we will hold them to account. ~ . . ,, , ., limit and we will hold them to account. ~ ,, . ~' , ., , account. melanie, thank you very much. account. melanie, thank you very much- there _ account. melanie, thank you very much. there are _ account. melanie, thank you very much. there are a _ account. melanie, thank you very much. there are a lot _ account. melanie, thank you very much. there are a lot more - account. melanie, thank you very - much. there are a lot more questions still to come and we will get you some answers. we have been talking about ofcom's new codes of practice, part of this wider plan to clean up social media as melanie was saying, and search engines under the online safety act. the act is considered one of the toughest regimes in the world for tackling harmful online content. so i have been looking at what it actually is. who is going to a plate and how can it be enforced. the online safety act became law in october last year, and it puts new duties on social media companies, search services like google and

pornographic content services. online platforms will have new responsibilities to protect users, that includes improving the enforcement of age restrictions, preventing, detecting and removing illegal content, stopping children from accessing harmful content and making it easier for users to report problems when they arise. it's the independent regulator ofcom that will have responsibility for implementing the new law, which is expected to be enforced from the summer of 2025. any companies that fail to comply with the act could face fines of up to £18 million or 10% of their annual global turnover. criminal action could be taken against senior managers, and companies could even face what are called business disruption measures like banning their uk income. the online safety act has faced opposition from tech companies, with platforms like whatsapp and signal

threatening to pull out of the uk over privacy concerns. and before becoming law, the proposals faced opposition from some conservative mps on the grounds of free speech. some online safety campaigners feel the act still doesn't go far enough. they are disappointed that it doesn't prevent adults from accessing harmful content. smartphones and social media have of course become very much part of the lives of lots of young people, and jayne mccubbin has been hearing from children, parents and teachers about the pressures they bring. whoa! caitlin and her brother dom were nine. we are allowed to look at their phone at any time. to check messages, to look at online history. felicity was eight. her cousin aaron is still waiting. this sometimes causes a bit of conflict. they sometimes fall out over it. do they? yeah.

the worry has always been this — put kids in the driving seat with smartphone technology and who knows what will happen. it's just the language, what they can view, if there's someone who is not who they say they are. online bullying, definitely, like other children being able to bully aaron while he's at home. that should be his safe place. you feel very strongly about it, don't you? yeah. almost all parents worry, but the pressure is irresistible. do you have a mobile phone yet, cooper? would you like a mobile phone? yeah. today, a quarter of five to seven—year—olds own a smartphone. so far, you've resisted? yes. non—negotiable. the other two were ten, so i've got to stick - with the same plan for him. ten years ago, almost all 13—year—olds had a smartphone. a decade on, it's almost all ten—year—olds, like cooper's siblings. i don't think there's any need for children to be on social.

media until they're 16. i don't think, there's no need for it. - they see each other- at school all day anyway. so why are your kids on social media? because i didn't know the dangers | around social media at that point. j if parents don't know, aren't educated in it, i how are we supposed to educate the children on it? _ you want some help with this, don't you? ido, yeah. i do. many parents are desperate for help. hello, clare. at the start of the year, you launched a campaign and you were overwhelmed with the response. initially, it was just a whatsapp group with the two of us, and two months later its 75,000 parents across the uk. that's 75,000 parents who have made a pledge to give their kids a smartphone—free childhood until at least iii. you know, it's the mental health, it's the loneliness, it's the depression, anxiety. you know, there's loads of evidence now that these things are not good for our kids.

these are the keys that caused the revolution. caused the revolution. this accrington school banned mobile phones. so every morning they go straight in a locker. in february, westminster told all schools they should prohibit their use. but that's should, and not all schools have. do you think more schools should do this? personally, yes. i do think that it is having a positive effect from a mental health point of view, that it does give pupils that break from their mobile phones. it's quite addictive to scroll on tiktok. do you just scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll? hours. the ban? how did everybody feel about it? at the start, i was really against it. go on, tell me how passionately against it you were. very passionately. i thought like you feel a bit lost without it. what you're describing sounds a little bit like withdrawal symptoms.

definitely. now that it's in place, _ i feel so much more safer about it because i haven't got that l constant buzz in my pocket. who feels it is just addictive? greater protections for young minds are gaining pace, but are they enough? and did they happen soon enough? this generation is a testing ground. jayne mccubbin, bbc news. you are watching a very special edition of bbc breakfast this morning. we arejoined here in the studio by the parents, the families of children who have died as a result of social media in different ways. we are talking about their stories, about the children and what can be done now to change things. we're joined now by the technology secretary michelle donelan. good morning. we have had some incredible stories this morning. it has been very powerful questions, and these parents need answers. you are technology secretary. what can

you do to make sure that the families who are sitting here with us today find answers and can help make changes for children living in this country today? so make changes for children living in this country today?— this country today? so the parents here today have _ this country today? so the parents here today have been _ this country today? so the parents here today have been making - this country today? so the parents - here today have been making changes already, and i applaud them for that. i met the vast majority multiple times, and they have worked hard with us to produce this piece of legislation to ensure that other children don't go through the horrors that their children did, and no words can express how strong these parents are in their belief to try and change the current system, and that is what we have done with this piece of legislation, that is what we're trying to implement at the moment. and today is a landmark moment because we are fleshed out the how. before we were talking about what was changing, this is how it is going to change, so things like aggressive algorithms, things like aggressive algorithms, things like ensuring that we actually know the age of the users that are on social media. melanie from our

regulator ofcom spoke before about nearly 40% of five to seven—year—olds are on social media. i find that outrageous, and it has no place in society.— no place in society. what do you mean outrageous? _ no place in society. what do you mean outrageous? outrageousl no place in society. what do you i mean outrageous? outrageous for no place in society. what do you - mean outrageous? outrageous for who? outrageous for the implication is that that could have on the children, and their mental health, their well—being. and the only people that are to blame for this other tech companies, and that is why my message here sitting on your sofa today is that the tech companies don't need to wait for the full implementation of this bill. they can start now. in some of them already have. but they need to go further and faster. thea;r already have. but they need to go further and faster.— further and faster. they are waitint , further and faster. they are waiting. we _ further and faster. they are waiting, we know _ further and faster. they are waiting, we know they - further and faster. they are waiting, we know they are i further and faster. they are - waiting, we know they are waiting, because _ waiting, we know they are waiting, because in— waiting, we know they are waiting, because in the states there was a senate _ because in the states there was a senate hearing where five tech bosses — senate hearing where five tech bosses gave evidence in person, which _ bosses gave evidence in person, which was — bosses gave evidence in person, which was quite memorable. mark zuckerberg had to get up and apologise to american parents who had lost _ apologise to american parents who had lost children. they also had to submit _ had lost children. they also had to submit written answers outside of that session, and in meta's written

answer. _ that session, and in meta's written answer, they say they are waiting for ofcom — answer, they say they are waiting for ofcom to publish a code of practice, — for ofcom to publish a code of practice, and the tech companies are sitting _ practice, and the tech companies are sitting down— practice, and the tech companies are sitting down and not doing anything because _ sitting down and not doing anything because they are buying as much time as they— because they are buying as much time as they can _ because they are buying as much time as they can. how can we make them move? _ as they can. how can we make them move? i_ as they can. how can we make them move? , ., , . ., as they can. how can we make them move? i. , . ., ., move? i feel your frustration on this, and if— move? i feel your frustration on this, and if we _ move? i feel your frustration on this, and if we could _ move? i feel your frustration on this, and if we could fully - this, and if we could fully implement the bill tomorrow, i would be doing it, and we have spoken about this many times, ian. i managed to personally get that time down, i squeezed managed to personally get that time down, isqueezed it managed to personally get that time down, i squeezed it with ofcom because i wanted it to be done as quickly as possible, but there is a bit of a trade off because these are companies which are multi—billion pound organisations and what we don't want to do is go so fast that it has lots of loopholes or they can easily litigate and it is chewed up in the courts for years. we want this to be robust, bullet—proof to make sure that actually delivers. and that's why it 18 months in law. they can't go past that. we are already six months through. it is step—by—step, and we have made sure

that priorities are at the beginning, like pornography, like children, and today ofcom have put the meat on the bones. there is no doubt never social media companies what they need to be doing, it is like a manual for what they need to be doing. d0 like a manual for what they need to be doint. ,, like a manual for what they need to bedoint. ~' , like a manual for what they need to bedoint. ~' _. be doing. do you think they are scared? they — be doing. do you think they are scared? they have _ be doing. do you think they are scared? they have invested - be doing. do you think they are scared? they have invested in l be doing. do you think they are i scared? they have invested in lots of talks in the _ scared? they have invested in lots of talks in the past, _ scared? they have invested in lots of talks in the past, but _ scared? they have invested in lots of talks in the past, but they - scared? they have invested in lots of talks in the past, but they are i of talks in the past, but they are not good enough. at the moment we have children social media that legally aren't meant to be because under our data laws it is meant to be 13, and as i said before, i am seeing kids as young as five on social media. and then the other thing is that for too long the onus has been on the parents, and it is absolutely impossible for the parents to be there all the time and checking what their children are doing. children are clever, they will find a way around this, which is why it has to be the job to protect them so that all harmful content goes, so that platforms are suitable for children over the age of 13 if their parents want them to be on there. taste of 13 if their parents want them to be on there-— be on there. we know that rishi sunak has _ be on there. we know that rishi sunak has got — be on there. we know that rishi sunak has got links _ be on there. we know that rishi sunak has got links to _ be on there. we know that rishi sunak has got links to silicon i sunak has got links to silicon valley and we have seen him hanging

out with elon musk. if he can't get answers from these big tech bosses and get them to the table, who can? i don't want you to think that they are not to the table. we worked with them throughout the passage of this bill. but them throughout the passage of this bill. �* , ., , , them throughout the passage of this bill. �* i. , , , . them throughout the passage of this bill. �* , , , . bill. but you must be frustrated you can't tet bill. but you must be frustrated you can't get the _ bill. but you must be frustrated you can't get the delivery? _ bill. but you must be frustrated you can't get the delivery? i'm - bill. but you must be frustrated you can't get the delivery? i'm not i can't get the delivery? i'm not frustrated _ can't get the delivery? i'm not frustrated about _ can't get the delivery? i'm not frustrated about that. - can't get the delivery? i'm not frustrated about that. i'm i frustrated about that. i'm frustrated about that. i'm frustrated that an ideal world i would get things done next year, but thatis would get things done next year, but that is not how things work, we have to be realistic and make sure that this is effective and robust and i'm not sitting here promising of a body that things will change and then it will fall apart within a few months. what i want to do is ensure we have a in place that actually prevents children from going through what the parents here children went, and i have met with these social media companies throughout the passage of the bill. everything we have asked them to do is doable, they have already begun to do it. the message isn't, will they do it, it is do it as fast as you possibly can. let's turn to stuart. _ as fast as you possibly can. let's turn to stuart. i _ as fast as you possibly can. let's turn to stuart. i think— as fast as you possibly can. let's turn to stuart. i think our- as fast as you possibly can. let's turn to stuart. i think our viewers will remember the terrible case of your son, will remember the terrible case of yourson, ollie will remember the terrible case of your son, ollie stevens, who was murdered by two teenagers. that

murdered by two teenagers. that murder had been plotted online, there was evidence of bullying online, wasn't there? what would you like to ask? . ., online, wasn't there? what would you like to ask? . ,, . ., like to ask? thank you. i have two questions, — like to ask? thank you. i have two questions, and — like to ask? thank you. i have two questions, and one _ like to ask? thank you. i have two questions, and one will— like to ask? thank you. i have two questions, and one will lead i like to ask? thank you. i have two questions, and one will lead into i questions, and one will lead into the other — questions, and one will lead into the other one _ questions, and one will lead into the other. one of— questions, and one will lead into the other. one of my son's- questions, and one will lead into - the other. one of my son's murderers left the _ the other. one of my son's murderers left the scene — the other. one of my son's murderers left the scene laughing, _ the other. one of my son's murderers left the scene laughing, skipping, i left the scene laughing, skipping, ioking _ left the scene laughing, skipping, ioking this— left the scene laughing, skipping, joking. this shows _ left the scene laughing, skipping, joking. this shows the _ left the scene laughing, skipping, joking. this shows the level- left the scene laughing, skipping, joking. this shows the level to i joking. this shows the level to which — joking. this shows the level to which children— joking. this shows the level to which children are _ joking. this shows the level to which children are now- joking. this shows the level to - which children are now desensitised, their value _ which children are now desensitised, their value of— which children are now desensitised, their value of life _ which children are now desensitised, their value of life is— which children are now desensitised, their value of life is disappear, - their value of life is disappear, they— their value of life is disappear, they don't— their value of life is disappear, they don't have _ their value of life is disappear, they don't have a _ their value of life is disappear, they don't have a value - their value of life is disappear, they don't have a value of life i their value of life is disappear, i they don't have a value of life any and what — they don't have a value of life any and what more, _ they don't have a value of life any and what more, little _ they don't have a value of life any and what more, little value - they don't have a value of life any and what more, little value they i they don't have a value of life any i and what more, little value they had before, _ and what more, little value they had before, this — and what more, little value they had before, this is — and what more, little value they had before, this is an _ and what more, little value they had before, this is an amplified - and what more, little value they had before, this is an amplified by- before, this is an amplified by social— before, this is an amplified by social media. _ before, this is an amplified by social media. it _ before, this is an amplified by social media. it is— before, this is an amplified by social media. it is a _ before, this is an amplified by social media. it is a complete| before, this is an amplified by- social media. it is a complete and lack of— social media. it is a complete and lack of social _ social media. it is a complete and lack of social care _ social media. it is a complete and lack of social care for _ social media. it is a complete and lack of social care for life. - social media. it is a complete and lack of social care for life. how i lack of social care for life. how can anybody— lack of social care for life. how can anybody deny— lack of social care for life. how can anybody deny that - lack of social care for life. how can anybody deny that social. lack of social care for life. how i can anybody deny that social media is harmful— can anybody deny that social media is harmful to — can anybody deny that social media is harmful to under— can anybody deny that social media is harmful to under 18— can anybody deny that social media is harmful to under 18 is, _ can anybody deny that social media is harmful to under 18 is, and - can anybody deny that social media is harmful to under 18 is, and on. is harmful to under 18 is, and on your— is harmful to under 18 is, and on your point— is harmful to under 18 is, and on your point about _ is harmful to under 18 is, and on your point about children - is harmful to under 18 is, and on your point about children five i is harmful to under 18 is, and on. your point about children five years old seeing — your point about children five years old seeing social— your point about children five years old seeing social media, _ your point about children five years old seeing social media, we - your point about children five years| old seeing social media, we worked very closely — old seeing social media, we worked very closely with _ old seeing social media, we worked very closely with the _ old seeing social media, we worked very closely with the local— old seeing social media, we worked very closely with the local primary i very closely with the local primary school _ very closely with the local primary school it — very closely with the local primary school it is— very closely with the local primary school. it is the _ very closely with the local primary school. it is the best _ very closely with the local primary school. it is the best years -

very closely with the local primary school. it is the best years of- school. it is the best years of their— school. it is the best years of their schooling _ school. it is the best years of their schooling lives, - school. it is the best years of their schooling lives, primary school, — their schooling lives, primary school, and _ their schooling lives, primary school, and the teachers i their schooling lives, primary. school, and the teachers there their schooling lives, primary- school, and the teachers there are having _ school, and the teachers there are having to — school, and the teachers there are having to deal _ school, and the teachers there are having to deal with _ school, and the teachers there are having to deal with the _ school, and the teachers there are having to deal with the fallout i school, and the teachers there are i having to deal with the fallout from harms _ having to deal with the fallout from harms on _ having to deal with the fallout from harms on social— having to deal with the fallout from harms on social media _ having to deal with the fallout from harms on social media at _ having to deal with the fallout from harms on social media at eight, i harms on social media at eight, seven— harms on social media at eight, seven and — harms on social media at eight, seven and six. _ harms on social media at eight, seven and six, and _ harms on social media at eight, seven and six, and we - harms on social media at eight, seven and six, and we are - harms on social media at eight, seven and six, and we are not i harms on social media at eight, i seven and six, and we are notjust talking _ seven and six, and we are notjust talking a _ seven and six, and we are notjust talking a minor argument. - seven and six, and we are notjust talking a minor argument. we i seven and six, and we are notjust talking a minor argument. we are| talking a minor argument. we are talking _ talking a minor argument. we are talking about _ talking a minor argument. we are talking about some _ talking a minor argument. we are talking about some quite - talking a minor argument. we are talking about some quite graphicl talking a minor argument. we are i talking about some quite graphic and terrific— talking about some quite graphic and terrific stuff~ — talking about some quite graphic and terrific stuff. they _ talking about some quite graphic and terrific stuff. they should _ talking about some quite graphic and terrific stuff. they should never- terrific stuff. they should never see that — terrific stuff. they should never see that stuff _ terrific stuff. they should never see that stuff in _ terrific stuff. they should never see that stuff in the _ terrific stuff. they should never see that stuff in the first - terrific stuff. they should never see that stuff in the first place. j see that stuff in the first place. so are — see that stuff in the first place. so are we — see that stuff in the first place. so are we going _ see that stuff in the first place. so are we going to— see that stuff in the first place. so are we going to be - see that stuff in the first place. so are we going to be able to l see that stuff in the first place. i so are we going to be able to bring a halt— so are we going to be able to bring a halt to _ so are we going to be able to bring a halt to that? _ so are we going to be able to bring a halt to that? why— so are we going to be able to bring a halt to that? why does _ so are we going to be able to bring a halt to that? why does a - so are we going to be able to bring a halt to that? why does a child i a halt to that? why does a child need _ a halt to that? why does a child need to— a halt to that? why does a child need to have _ a halt to that? why does a child need to have access _ a halt to that? why does a child need to have access to - a halt to that? why does a child need to have access to militaryl need to have access to military grade — need to have access to military grade end—to—end _ need to have access to military grade end—to—end encryption, i need to have access to military- grade end—to—end encryption, because as parents— grade end—to—end encryption, because as parents we — grade end—to—end encryption, because as parents we have _ grade end—to—end encryption, because as parents we have no _ grade end—to—end encryption, because as parents we have no way _ grade end—to—end encryption, because as parents we have no way of - as parents we have no way of monitoring _ as parents we have no way of monitoring their— as parents we have no way of monitoring their phone - as parents we have no way of i monitoring their phone access, as parents we have no way of - monitoring their phone access, and i wasjust— monitoring their phone access, and i wasjust wondering _ monitoring their phone access, and i was just wondering where _ monitoring their phone access, and i was just wondering where we go i monitoring their phone access, and il was just wondering where we go from there _ wasjust wondering where we go from there. , ., ., ~' wasjust wondering where we go from there. , ., ., ,, i. wasjust wondering where we go from there. , , ., , , there. yes, look, your story is heartbreaking _ there. yes, look, your story is heartbreaking and _ there. yes, look, your story is heartbreaking and i _ there. yes, look, your story is | heartbreaking and i completely there. yes, look, your story is i heartbreaking and i completely agree with you. children should not be subjected to harmful content like violence or pornography or any of that type of content that can deeply affect them, and like you say, desensitise them to be able to live in the real world, and that is why under the act that we passed, it means that all that harmful content, not just means that all that harmful content, notjust illegal content but harmful

content has to be stripped out, they cannot see it. and at the end of the day, the regulator has big teeth. it will be able to find them up to 18% of their global turnover, like going to billions, so the incentive is there to not comply with a piece of legislation. there to not comply with a piece of letislation. , , there to not comply with a piece of legislation-— legislation. foolishly we believe that with our _ legislation. foolishly we believe that with our children _ legislation. foolishly we believe that with our children using i legislation. foolishly we believe i that with our children using these platforms, — that with our children using these platforms, they— that with our children using these platforms, they were _ that with our children using these platforms, they were quite - that with our children using these i platforms, they were quite harmless, and there _ platforms, they were quite harmless, and there was — platforms, they were quite harmless, and there was a— platforms, they were quite harmless, and there was a duty _ platforms, they were quite harmless, and there was a duty of _ platforms, they were quite harmless, and there was a duty of care - platforms, they were quite harmless, and there was a duty of care by- and there was a duty of care by these _ and there was a duty of care by these companies. _ and there was a duty of care by these companies. we - and there was a duty of care by these companies. we couldn'tl and there was a duty of care by- these companies. we couldn't have been _ these companies. we couldn't have been more — these companies. we couldn't have been more wrong. _ these companies. we couldn't have been more wrong. and _ these companies. we couldn't have been more wrong. and throughoutl these companies. we couldn't have i been more wrong. and throughout the evidence _ been more wrong. and throughout the evidence gathering _ been more wrong. and throughout the evidence gathering for— been more wrong. and throughout the evidence gathering for olly— been more wrong. and throughout the evidence gathering for olly 's - evidence gathering for olly 's trial, — evidence gathering for olly 's trial, we _ evidence gathering for olly 's trial, we were _ evidence gathering for olly 's trial, we were sickened - evidence gathering for olly 's trial, we were sickened by. evidence gathering for olly 'sl trial, we were sickened by the content — trial, we were sickened by the content they _ trial, we were sickened by the content they have _ trial, we were sickened by the content they have access - trial, we were sickened by the content they have access to, i trial, we were sickened by the i content they have access to, and these _ content they have access to, and these are — content they have access to, and these are children. _ content they have access to, and these are children. i— content they have access to, and these are children. i have - content they have access to, and | these are children. i have worked content they have access to, and i these are children. i have worked in these are children. i have worked in the building — these are children. i have worked in the building industry— these are children. i have worked in the building industry for— these are children. i have worked in the building industry for 14 - these are children. i have worked in the building industry for 14 years, i the building industry for 14 years, i the building industry for 14 years, i know— the building industry for 14 years, i know what— the building industry for 14 years, i know what is— the building industry for 14 years, i know what is seen _ the building industry for 14 years, i know what is seen by— the building industry for 14 years, i know what is seen by adults i the building industry for 14 years, i know what is seen by adults onl the building industry for 14 years, | i know what is seen by adults on a building _ i know what is seen by adults on a building site — i know what is seen by adults on a building site through— i know what is seen by adults on a building site through their- i know what is seen by adults on a | building site through their phones. i building site through their phones. l was _ building site through their phones. l was never— building site through their phones. i was never aware _ building site through their phones. i was never aware that _ building site through their phones. i was never aware that children i i was never aware that children would — i was never aware that children would have _ i was never aware that children would have the _ i was never aware that children would have the same _ i was never aware that children would have the same access i i was never aware that children would have the same access toj i was never aware that children i would have the same access to that type of— would have the same access to that type of content _ would have the same access to that type of content. there _ would have the same access to that type of content. there are - would have the same access to that type of content. there are 11 - type of content. there are 11 platforms _ type of content. there are 11 platforms used _ type of content. there are 11

platforms used in _ type of content. there are 11 platforms used in olly - type of content. there are 11 platforms used in olly 's i type of content. there are 11 - platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this _ platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this it — platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this it is — platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this. it is evil. _ platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this. it is evil. how— platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this. it is evil. how do - platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this. it is evil. how do we - platforms used in olly 's murder to plot this. it is evil. how do we getl plot this. it is evil. how do we get it to stop? — plot this. it is evil. how do we get it to stop? iii— plot this. it is evil. how do we get it to step?— it to stop? it is the harmful content and _ it to stop? it is the harmful content and then _ it to stop? it is the harmful content and then the - it to stop? it is the harmful - content and then the repetition of the harmful content through aggressive algorithms which is something ofcom have been very clear about, and they demand tech companies fix it. that was a very core part of our piece of legislation, so it is about making sure that for all children social media is completely harmless, to strip out all that harm, but also that they are enforcing their own age restrictions. the reality is under our law with data protection, children under 13 without parental consent shouldn't be on these platforms anyway, but they are not doing anything about it because we haven't been enforcing it, and now we will be with this piece of legislation and our regulator that you havejust legislation and our regulator that you have just been chatting to, and that goes further than any country have done. but that said, we want to continue to build on this because this is really important. more

questions _ this is really important. more questions coming _ this is really important. more questions coming in - this is really important. more questions coming in just - this is really important. more questions coming in just a . this is really important. more questions coming injust a moment, butjust to let questions coming injust a moment, but just to let you know that of course we have contacted all the social media companies to find out how they're tackling this issue, and this is what they told us. meta who operate facebook, instagram, whatsapp and threads told us... sa s a spokesperson from tiktok told us...

snap, who own snapchat, sent us this response. we also contacted x, formerly known as twitter, youtube, but have had no is back yet. interesting, we are talking to parents who are trying to get answers from tech companies, and we had no answerfrom answers from tech companies, and we had no answer from x and youtube, and we are on bbc one for three hours, so that shows you how challenging it can be. george, you are here to talk about your boy christopher who tragically took his own life after seeing messages

online that encouraged him to do so. i know you have a question for the minister this morning. just tell us a little bit about what answers you need. . a little bit about what answers you need. , ., ., ., a little bit about what answers you need. , ., . ., ~ a little bit about what answers you need. , ., ., ., ~ ., need. first of all, i would like to clear the bit _ need. first of all, i would like to clear the bit about _ need. first of all, i would like to clear the bit about taking - need. first of all, i would like to clear the bit about taking his - need. first of all, i would like to | clear the bit about taking his own life. in humanity, that is what it looks like, but my terminology on thatis looks like, but my terminology on that is he was murdered, because this is what the tech companies allow predators to attack us, to attack our children in various different ways, and as you can see, 11, 12 families here already, and i have got the chance to meet a lot of other families who haven't got the ability to come on and say their story, because they are heartbroken like all of us are. i need to make a point that the clock is ticking. we

keep saying we will try, we keep saying we will do. but let's start with the simple things like how about if tech companies like tiktok, instagram, snapchat and all of the rest of them, start monitoring what they are allowing to go through now as supposed to wait for another god knows how long until we lose more and more lives. every second counts. we are here to save lives, i have set up a charity to take children out, give them fun activities, so why can't the tech companies look at us very seriously and look what is going around, and put aside the fact that they are not going to be making any money from it and just use their heart to help save the children's

lives, and this is where we are going with this. we have had enough of it. and we, especially as here as a group, we will continue doing what we're doing until we get this sorted, and that's what we want to do, and that's very important for us. ~ do, and that's very important for us. ~ do, and that's very important for us. well, look, i completely agree with everything — us. well, look, i completely agree with everything that _ us. well, look, i completely agree with everything that you've - us. well, look, i completely agree with everything that you've said. l with everything that you've said. that is— with everything that you've said. that is it — with everything that you've said. that is it vitally important that we can stop _ that is it vitally important that we can stop our children from being bombarded with this hurtful and hateful— bombarded with this hurtful and hateful content that is having devastating impacts on notjust here and how— devastating impacts on notjust here and now but their long—term future as welt, _ and now but their long—term future as welt, hut— and now but their long—term future as well, but we are not waiting now. we passed _ as well, but we are not waiting now. we passed this piece of legislation, it is taw~ _ we passed this piece of legislation, it is law. we are in this stage now where _ it is law. we are in this stage now where we — it is law. we are in this stage now where we are actively implementing it, where we are actively implementing it. we _ where we are actively implementing it. we have — where we are actively implementing it, we have fleshed out the how, given— it, we have fleshed out the how, given in— it, we have fleshed out the how, given in the manual for what we want to d0~ _ given in the manual for what we want to d0~ cah— given in the manual for what we want to do. can you go on your computer or your— to do. can you go on your computer or your phone — to do. can you go on your computer or your phone and see it all changed overnight? _ or your phone and see it all changed overnight? no. but this is a step—by—step process that we are already—

step—by—step process that we are already a — step—by—step process that we are already a third of the way through. i understand that, but can i make one more point that, ok, fine, if someone or a predator decides to post something that is of dangerous content, they will be able to do that even today, even this very second. however, other companies like ebay who are very good company, they won't allow a post to go out because it has got a phone number on the script, and that will allow the person who wants to buy that item to call the number direct and ebay will lose money, so they will monitor it. before it goes live they will make sure that that won't go live until that number is off. so why can't the tech companies actually look at that in a similarway? tech companies actually look at that in a similar way? immediately? thea;r in a similar way? immediately? they alread do in a similar way? immediately? they already do some _ in a similar way? immediately? they already do some of _ in a similar way? immediately? they already do some of the stuff. the problem is — already do some of the stuff. the problem is that a lot of children are falling through the cracks, and we have _ are falling through the cracks, and we have been sealing up those cracks with the _ we have been sealing up those cracks with the online safety act and saying — with the online safety act and saying that every single child should — saying that every single child should be protected, and so they do

do some _ should be protected, and so they do do some of— should be protected, and so they do do some of that stuff, but we are saying _ do some of that stuff, but we are saying it — do some of that stuff, but we are saying it needs to be across the board, — saying it needs to be across the board, and _ saying it needs to be across the board, and that's why ofcom have told them — board, and that's why ofcom have told them exactly how they need to do it, _ told them exactly how they need to do it. so— told them exactly how they need to do it, so there is no doubt, so they can't _ do it, so there is no doubt, so they can't do _ do it, so there is no doubt, so they can't do something that is half— hearted. can't do something that is half—hearted. they have given can't do something that is half— hearted. they have given them the mahuat— half— hearted. they have given them the manual today, and now social media _ the manual today, and now social media has— the manual today, and now social media has to implement that manual. we are _ media has to implement that manual. we are hot— media has to implement that manual. we are not believing the quote showing — we are not believing the quote showing up— we are not believing the quote showing up on— we are not believing the quote showing up on the _ we are not believing the quote showing up on the screen, - we are not believing the quote . showing up on the screen, saying that they— showing up on the screen, saying that they have _ showing up on the screen, saying that they have everything - showing up on the screen, saying that they have everything in - showing up on the screen, saying| that they have everything in place and att— that they have everything in place and all the — that they have everything in place and all the policies _ that they have everything in place and all the policies are _ that they have everything in place and all the policies are perfect. i and all the policies are perfect. somebody— and all the policies are perfect. somebodyiust _ and all the policies are perfect. somebodyjust writes - and all the policies are perfect. somebodyjust writes that. - and all the policies are perfect. somebodyjust writes that. so i and all the policies are perfect. i somebodyjust writes that. so is somebody 'ust writes that. so is there a somebody just writes that. so is there a law _ somebody just writes that. so is there a law for _ somebody just writes that. so is there a law for this _ somebody just writes that. so is there a law for this stage? - somebody just writes that. so is there a law for this stage? we i somebody just writes that. so is i there a law for this stage? we put there a law for this stage? we put the law into _ there a law for this stage? we put the law into make _ there a law for this stage? we put the law into make sure _ there a law for this stage? we put the law into make sure that - there a law for this stage? we put the law into make sure that it - there a law for this stage? we put the law into make sure that it has| there a law for this stage? we put. the law into make sure that it has a timetihe, _ the law into make sure that it has a timetihe, it— the law into make sure that it has a timeline, it is 18 months in total and we — timeline, it is 18 months in total and we are — timeline, it is 18 months in total and we are one third of the way through. — and we are one third of the way through, there is a year to go, but it is hot— through, there is a year to go, but it is not a — through, there is a year to go, but it is not a year with nothing, you do it— it is not a year with nothing, you do it in— it is not a year with nothing, you do it in stages, so you are building up do it in stages, so you are building up att— do it in stages, so you are building up all the — do it in stages, so you are building up allthe time. do it in stages, so you are building up all the time. but do it in stages, so you are building up all the time.— up all the time. but you know the case is rolling _ up all the time. but you know the case is rolling up _ up all the time. but you know the case is rolling up in _ up all the time. but you know the case is rolling up in numbers? - up all the time. but you know the l case is rolling up in numbers? and toda the case is rolling up in numbers? and today they have — case is rolling up in numbers? and today they have launched a massive part of_ today they have launched a massive part of it _ today they have launched a massive art of it. �* . today they have launched a massive art of it. �* , . ., .

part of it. and it is a normal thing to watch on _ part of it. and it is a normal thing to watch on tv — part of it. and it is a normal thing to watch on tv every _ part of it. and it is a normal thing to watch on tv every week- part of it. and it is a normal thing to watch on tv every week a - part of it. and it is a normal thing to watch on tv every week a case j to watch on tv every week a case like our kids. that to watch on tv every week a case like our kids.— like our kids. at every week you will see more _ like our kids. at every week you will see more and _ like our kids. at every week you will see more and more - like our kids. at every week you | will see more and more changes happening, and what we did was we dealt happening, and what we did was we deatt with— happening, and what we did was we dealt with the important stuff first — dealt with the important stuff first. we dealt with children at the very beginning of this so they don't wait until— very beginning of this so they don't wait until the end of that time period — wait until the end of that time eriod. . . wait until the end of that time eriod. , . , . �* ., period. there is a plan b in case of we don't get _ period. there is a plan b in case of we don't get luck— period. there is a plan b in case of we don't get luck with _ period. there is a plan b in case of we don't get luck with the - we don't get luck with the companies?— we don't get luck with the companies? we don't get luck with the com anies? ~ , . ., companies? well, they have to, because in _ companies? well, they have to, because in the _ companies? well, they have to, because in the legislation - companies? well, they have to, because in the legislation they l companies? well, they have to, - because in the legislation they have to comply — because in the legislation they have to comply. if they fail to comply, the regulator can find them potentially billions of pounds, we can also— potentially billions of pounds, we can also then take further steps which _ can also then take further steps which are — can also then take further steps which are to do with disrupting their— which are to do with disrupting their business like blocking advertising etc. so we have really thought— advertising etc. so we have really thought of— advertising etc. so we have really thought of everything to make sure that they— thought of everything to make sure that they do comply. in addition, if it was— that they do comply. in addition, if it was to _ that they do comply. in addition, if it was to do — that they do comply. in addition, if it was to do with child abuse and six exploitation, there are criminal charges _ six exploitation, there are criminal charges i— six exploitation, there are criminal charges. i have spoken to the tech companies — charges. i have spoken to the tech companies, and they are not talking about— companies, and they are not talking about trying to get round this. do we about trying to get round this. we have the about trying to get round this. idir’r we have the tools to enforce this, these fines?— these fines? yes, that is why we have invested _ these fines? yes, that is why we have invested a _ these fines? yes, that is why we have invested a lot _ these fines? yes, that is why we have invested a lot of _ these fines? yes, that is why we

have invested a lot of money - these fines? yes, that is why we | have invested a lot of money and peopte _ have invested a lot of money and people into ofcom to make sure we have the _ people into ofcom to make sure we have the manpower and the ability to make _ have the manpower and the ability to make sure _ have the manpower and the ability to make sure that this piece of legislation works. can make sure that this piece of legislation works.— make sure that this piece of legislation works. can we turn to ellen as well, _ legislation works. can we turn to ellen as well, you _ legislation works. can we turn to ellen as well, you lost _ legislation works. can we turn to ellen as well, you lost your - legislation works. can we turn to ellen as well, you lost your son i legislation works. can we turn to | ellen as well, you lost your son in 2014. do you have a question? yes. ellen as well, you lost your son in 2014. do you have a question? yes, i didn't know — 2014. do you have a question? yes, i didn't know that _ 2014. do you have a question? yes, i didn't know that parents _ 2014. do you have a question? yes, i didn't know that parents didn't - 2014. do you have a question? yes, i didn't know that parents didn't have i didn't know that parents didn't have the right to access their children's data. as a parent of either a living child or in my case my deceased child, i can't see what was on his tiktok. they won't release dated to me. in some of us are in very similar situations. will the law change that and protect the rights of parents to protect the living children, or in my case and holly for example to see what they were looking at? we did look at this, and it is a balance — we did look at this, and it is a balance between the child's privacy as welt, _ balance between the child's privacy as well, because sometimes parents might— as well, because sometimes parents might not— as well, because sometimes parents might not always have the best intentions when they are trying to secure _ intentions when they are trying to secure that information, and some parents _ secure that information, and some parents may be abuse

welcome. good morning, and good morning to viewers on bbc news. it is good to have you here. get your thoughts in on this one, a massive one comola about our kids and social media. ofcom have new regulations which they hope will be lower next year. is government led, it is interventionist, i've got to tell you that. big social media story. tiktok, facebook, instagram, snapchat, you name it kids are on

it. but the companies behind them are being told they need to change their algorithms to protect children and stop children seeing harmful content, or else. what exactly is or else? that's a very good question. ofcom say failure to do this could see apps banned for under 185. they 5ee apps banned for under 185. they could 5ee app5 banned for under 185. they could do that. another excellent question, you are on fire. and they are talking about rigorou5 age checks being on the agenda. i know what you are going to ask. how do they do that? otherwise, ma55ive fines will be imposed. that will be interesting to find out how that will happen. 15 this company i5�* re5pon5ibility, will happen. 15 this company i5�* responsibility, or is it parental responsibility? should parents be doing more, or5hould companies responsibility? should parents be doing more, or should companies be doing more, or should companies be doing more? and what about the benefits of social media as well —— companies' possibility. teenagers communicating through social media. it isn't all bad. but there is real damage done to young people as well.

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